I agree about what you say regarding league positions. However for me I would say that we MUST finish in the top 8. If we do then we have done well and if not then we have done poorly. No excuses top 8 is a MUST. The manner in which we get there will depend on whether or not I would like to see Agar remain in charge, That said if we were to finish top four then Agar would have every right to demand a new contract.



Gut feeling tells me around 5th/6th.

Yes, because I'd employ the right group of people, with complimentary skill sets and in a professional capacity.



It's called MANAGEMENT.

You just know we will start really well, BUT can we build on that start next year? I just can't see Longy & Fitzy sat in a losers changing room every week! We will make the play-offs and I'm fully expecting us to win the cup (at Wembley)

so when they walk in the room they'd all know each other and wouldn't waste time getting to know each other?



you might be able to find the right people but i dont think many players are psychic.



all coaches know it will take time to get the best out of any side and then within the side due to partnerships.



training and even pre season games dont have the same level of pressure so how can they know what their team mate would do?

Not quite the same in sports, though. A lot of what goes on is down to instinct as well as training, and the building of a working partnership between players. They have to know what each other will do in any given situation without thinking about it as there often isn't time.



A longer than usual pre-season should help a lot, and good coaching can certainly reduce any bedding-in time, but all teams face the same issue.

I see both yours and Standee's points. The team will need time as they can't just come out and play at their best immediatley. However the spirit of the side can be forged in preseason and if Agar can get this right and get everybody playing for each other and believing in each other then he has already done half the job.

Spot on Paul, the ethic and professionalism start on day one, it will take a little time to learn moves etc. (assuming we're bothering with any!).



Interesting to see there are already some excuses for Agar kicking about.

agar needs a good start to keep the fans on side, but we all know its how you finish the season that counts.



some coaches, like noble, always have there side ready for the right time and actually hold back on moves or positional changes till late on in the season so sides dont have time to work them out.

In fairness they are coming from fans and not Agar himself, he has always maintained that next season there are no excuses.

He has to GET us on side before he worries about keeping us!

And they're hardly excuses in any case.

There are too many forgiving people in Hull!