Agreed, people can spout the in any kind of weather all they want but unless changes are made we are being taken for mugs and they only way to change this is to make the board realise that we wont just give out our money regardless, unless our recruitment is top class for next season I think I will just do away games and not giving the club any money just other clubs.

Well said I will always renew but I can afford to at present, when you looked round last night at Headingley we are down to the real in any kinda weather crowd, many of whom put a brave face on things and even found the funny side of things at times.



The fact is though in hard economic times when people have to make choices why should they choose to pour their hard earned down the drain to see performances that lack passion, skill and any idea of how to get their back into games when the going gets tough! The fact that the club seems unable to even suggest any action to put it right just compounds folks frustrations



I have rarely been so upset at half time as I was last night. Not because of the score but because with 3 seconds to go we were going in just 6 points down. Then another piece of abject lazyiness and rank poor defending by one particular player, who had been instrumental in our conceding earlier in the half, left us having to score three times to get ahead!!!

After watching the game last night, i'll struggle to even be bothered to go to the Saints game. As a pass holder this is the 1st season in 20 that I've felt like this.



As long as Agar, Sharpe and Drule are there, I can't see my pass being renewed. The club are in a win win situation, as they know what ever dross they serve up, they will still see record season pass sales. Until that stops, they will carry on mugging off the fans and club.

I respect the thoughts of those not wishing to renew - it is understandable -but as someone who will renew I don't consider myself a mug thanks. As for the bit in bold I take it you've never sung Old Faithful, or if you have you thought it was rubbish.

I assume you mean Thorman. A second row forward fends off a scrum half in defensive shocker!!! I'd check Yeamans role in the try as well.

Ultimately I love watching rugby league. I hate seeing Hull playing as they do but live in hope. Can't see me switching to red & white after 30+ years of black & white so will carry on with the pass and expectation that we will dare to change and keep admiring the likes of Saints, Leeds etc. and hope that we can learn from them. Stevo was giving Reece Lynne huge accolades last night, will we be a force of the future, or more wishful thinking?

The thing is when the same player waves his arms around for the fourth time in 40 minutes when attempting to make a tackle it grates a bit. As for Yeaman he regularly misses tackles or finds himself out of position so him doing so again was no surprise.

I've followed the team throgh thick and think for more than 30 years and seen much, much worse times and teams than this one. The difference now is that we're turning over more than we ever have, making more money than we ever have, seeing record attendances, record season pass and merchandise sales, spending more on the squad than we ever have and we're still failing.

If he hadn't kicked on the 3rd tackle in his own 20 with 30 seconds to go we'd never have been in the situation though would we?

I could have fended off that attempted tackle. It was woeful.



Why do players insist on a battle of upper body strength? If Thorman had tackled Ablett's legs we might not be having this conversation

He got fended off continually, his half hearted attempts are quite frankly pathetic and he should be nowhere near our team with that attitude.



Yeaman did miss a tackle, as he came accross Smith cut inside him, Thorman was just stood there and flapped an arm, Smith is not a backrower so what was his excuse that time.



Other players did miss tackles but they recovered from them and went on to have decent game, like Horne and Yeaman.

I see where you're coming from Paul. But Thorman was subbed at h/t and there was zero improvement in the second half.