Which team is Hull?



There's about as much red in the Bradford shirt and shorts as there is in the Saints socks. Can you really "easily" see the red in that picture? From far away, and when you're not relying on natural light, it's harder to distinguish colours as they get shadowed easier and so just look "darker" than the white parts. You're basically saying that you have to rely on a tiny part of someone's sock to be able to tell the difference. do you really think that's acceptable practice?



And Rovers don't have a big red band around the shirt. Only on the front. Only the supporters' version does.





You are right in the cases that you can easily distinguish teams when they're setting up a defensive line or whatever, but in broken play when there are players all over the place, it is very difficult to see who is who when the game is going so quickly. You shouldn't have to think twice, especially as a player, and especially if it can so easily be avoided by wearing a completely different coloured kit!



This isn't a kick about on a park pitch. This is the top of the professional game in this country FFS.

Reason why we didn't play in our BLACK AWAY kit is because we are using that kit against Catalan at home to 'unveil' it. That's why we refused to play in away kit yesterday.

Well maybe your merchandising team need to get them released earlier!

So you should have worn last years then. Or some kind of training kit.



You shouldn't have worn a kit that blatantly clashes with a one-off testimonial shirt. How can you ask them to change a one-off shirt?!

Chill out, I only told you the reason. If your so annoyed e-mail the Bulls.

I'm guessing you don't know the real reason then??



Let's just say that you would have been playin in 'skins' before you would have played in your away kit, seen as though Kooga hadnt delivered it on time!





The sooner Kooga are out of Super League the better!

Wasn't directed at you personally





(Unless it actually was your fault...)

Nope the away kit is definatly here, been here for 2 week. We are using the Catalan game to show off the away kit as we don't have any home pre-season games. Last year we unveiled the purple away kit against Halifax at home.



I agree tbf rather have ISC than Kooga.

Not what your club told the person in charge of matchday operations yesterday.......

That bloody Gledhill. Im going to start charging him for using my images





But yeah, yesterday was hard trying to tell who was who from that distance. Our commentary sounded terrible. The new numbers didn't help either, they look small and skinny. I don't see the need to change in the design they had

Change for the sake of change sometimes.



I didn't see the need to change back in 2007.

If one is not able to differentiate which team is which then one might need to have a more regular eye check for corrective purposes, though I never sit THAT far back at any sporting event the camera shot is blurry/out of focus and does not represent what viewing a game through a normal pair of eyes is like. Also it is a static singular moment snap and people with average sight and mental ability will have no trouble knowing who their players are.

I'm sure the referee would be ensuring that teams change kits if he thought it was an issue, that some speccies can't isn't an issue for me because they are in the insignificant minority.

When I played I never had to think twice, why would I? I recognise my own team (it wasn't a kick around on a park btw

) and just because they are SL players makes them no lesser or superior in their cognative abilities to other human beings so it matters not one jot in that respect.

It isn't difficult to see who is who unless you aren't following the game and have come back from the beer tent/bogs, then it takes a few seconds to regather who/what/where.

ATEOTD if it makes you feel better, make a full account & explanation to the RFL to register your viewpoint, you never know it might be meted with a positive response, it can't harm to try can it?

So to answer the question, no you can't tell which one Hull is





The fact is, people will be sat that far back sometimes. Some people won't have perfect eyesight. Some people won't be able to see the red stripe at the top of the Saints sock, either through not perfect sight or through the fact that it's a tiny part of the kit and it's been covered by another player.

People WILL take pictures like this and have no idea what's going on. People will watch on TV (standard def) and when it goes to a long shot not realise who is chasing.





And if the team doesn't have another kit?

Remember Huddersfield vs Castleford last year?





They delayed the game 25 minutes (a TV game at that) to get them to wear a different shirt. One's got hoops, the other hasn't. Why is it that that's not good enough for a Sky game, but is good enough for a friendly? It shouldn't be good enough for either. They're both poor kit clashes.





I'm not sure if that's arrogance, ignorance or a joke, but your cognitive reactions WOULD be slowed if the difference between the two kits isn't as obvious. You would take longer to recognise a stimulus (the player) the more similar the kit is. It's the reason why we try to avoid kit clashes!

You're basically saying that you could play a game totally unaffected if everyone was in the same kit as you'd be able to recognise your own team. I'd say that's rubbish, and you just can't tell how much it affects you (just like them people that think they drive better when they're drunk).



And my reference to it being a professional game wasn't about the cognitive abilities of the players (although you'd think that full time sportsmen with specific training to react to different stimulus would increase their chances of having greater cognitive abilities in certain areas than most other human beings). It was about how the game looks. And it doesn't look good when two teams are very very similarly kitted up when it could very easily be avoided. The second someone thinks "ooh, I thought he passed it to the other team then" means they've got a clash.





The fact that you've said "unless" and "a few seconds" means there's a clash. Believe it or not, a lot of people will look at the sport as unprofessional for reasons like this. It shouldn't take "a few seconds" to tell who's who. And it shouldn't matter if you've nipped to the bog, changed the TV channel, etc. you should know as soon as you look at the players who is on whose team.



Considering you thought that Wire and Leeds was a clash, I'm quite surprised you are't agreeing on the rest. It seems to contradict your opinion.





That's what my initial post was about.

Did anyone pass to an opposing player or tackle one of their own team yesterday?