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| It was immediately obvious Griff had done his achillies, as he went down in screaming in agony unchallenged.
Fages, could have just picked the ball up and paused and waited for the whistle, however in the middle of the semi final you can understand him scoring the try.
However, after the try, there was sufficient time for Saints Coach/Captain to decide to give Hull a walk in try to balance out the incident. Similar to Bielsa’s call with Leeds United v Aston Villa the other season. They chose not to.
Sad thing is, if Saints win at Wembley no one else but us will think about this incident. The headlines will just be Saints win at Wembley for the first time since 2008.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"Sorry Rider you play to the whistle
Griffin didnt lose the ball he threw it away
If this incident had been the other way round we as Hull fans would all be saying the Hull player was correct in picking up the loose ball and scoring the try.'"
I think you misunderstood me, play to the whistle is exactly what I’d expect any player to do, my query is, was that said whistle blown early enough, considering Josh’s obvious pain and discomfort.
As for throwing the ball away, he was probably in excruciating pain, and any actions in that situation would be far from normal.
Just hope Griff recovers well, he was looking good just before that incident, a right hammer blow for him.
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| I've not read back 23 pages so I I don't know if this has been mentioned.........
Spin back a minute or so before "the" incident and you will see a Hull player (pretty sure it was Griffin!!) tackling Makinson and deliberately twisting his ankle when the tackle is completed (the ankle injury he is just recovering from!) - the surrounding Saints players appeal to the ref about the deliberate foul play and Makinson is clearly unhappy with the tackle....... if we are talking about "playing fair" then we should all look at the complete picture - no Saints player caused Griffin's injury - a Hull player (probably Griffin) deliberately tried to injure Makinson - if we are going to get all sanctimonious about Fages being unsporting what about Griffin a minute before????
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| Quote lp2012="lp2012"I've not read back 23 pages so I I don't know if this has been mentioned.........
Spin back a minute or so before "the" incident and you will see a Hull player (pretty sure it was Griffin!!) tackling Makinson and deliberately twisting his ankle when the tackle is completed (the ankle injury he is just recovering from!) - the surrounding Saints players appeal to the ref about the deliberate foul play and Makinson is clearly unhappy with the tackle....... if we are talking about "playing fair" then we should all look at the complete picture - no Saints player caused Griffin's injury - a Hull player (probably Griffin) deliberately tried to injure Makinson - if we are going to get all sanctimonious about Fages being unsporting what about Griffin a minute before????'"
You need undoubted proof to say someone DELIBERATELY twisted a players ankles to injure him, now jog off.
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| Quote Riderofthepalehorse="Riderofthepalehorse"I think you misunderstood me, play to the whistle is exactly what I’d expect any player to do, my query is, was that said whistle blown early enough, considering Josh’s obvious pain and discomfort.
As for throwing the ball away, he was probably in excruciating pain, and any actions in that situation would be far from normal.
Just hope Griff recovers well, he was looking good just before that incident, a right hammer blow for him.'"
well he certainly wont play again this season
Throwing the ball away was an observation not a criticism as people were saying he dropped the ball or spilled the ball
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| Quote Armavinit="Armavinit"You need undoubted proof to say someone DELIBERATELY twisted a players ankles to injure him, now jog off.'"
No - all you need is your eyes.... open!!
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| Quote lp2012="lp2012"I've not read back 23 pages so I I don't know if this has been mentioned.........
Spin back a minute or so before "the" incident and you will see a Hull player (pretty sure it was Griffin!!) tackling Makinson and deliberately twisting his ankle when the tackle is completed (the ankle injury he is just recovering from!) - the surrounding Saints players appeal to the ref about the deliberate foul play and Makinson is clearly unhappy with the tackle....... if we are talking about "playing fair" then we should all look at the complete picture - no Saints player caused Griffin's injury - a Hull player (probably Griffin) deliberately tried to injure Makinson - if we are going to get all sanctimonious about Fages being unsporting what about Griffin a minute before????'"
I recall seeing something. Happened in the first half. Think Swift was in the tackle too. Makinson certainly didn’t look happy after the tackle.
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| ... not to worry, the disciplinary will ban him for the rest of the season and everyone will be happy.
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| Quote lp2012="lp2012"No - all you need is your eyes.... open!!'"
Could of been worse, he could of been twisting Tommy nuts,
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| Quote Riderofthepalehorse="Riderofthepalehorse"Could of been worse, he could of been twisting Tommy nuts,'"
Very true!!!!
no one is a saint.. even a Saint!!!
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"The problem with applying spirit of the game is that we could end up like football with players rolling all over the pitch in agony to stop the game and give the team a rest especially if defending only to get up again and start playing as though nothing happened.'"
Totally get that but Griff was in our 20 and had a few players ready to tackle him so was hardly going to gain any advantage by feigning injury there. To push them so close with only 8 minutes remaining is testament to how well we've improved as a team was so proud of the lads.
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| Quote lp2012="lp2012"No - all you need is your eyes.... open!!'"
No - it depends on what you want to see, and how you make disparaging claims.
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