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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"That's correct, yes.'"
Just realised you meant Turner wasn't selected at centre, not Whiting.
Mis-read. My mistake.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Just realised you meant Turner wasn't selected at centre, not Whiting.
Mis-read. My mistake.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Not sure you can coach pace to an RL player but if he lacks that he more than makes up for it in effort and versatility.'"
To a point you can.
I coached sprint & endurance running and anyone can pick up their pace and I'm sure Hull have been doing that with Rich.
It all gets technical though with athletes having 'Fast Twich'/ 'Slow Twitch' muscles and Rich probably falls in the former to a certain extent. Sprinters are in the Fast Twitch type. Rich, as has been said on numerous occasions, makes up for this with his 'brain' and sometimes that is better than just raw speed.
Don't worry about Whiting's pace, it's t'other's around him that need to be switched on.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"It seems stupid, I know, especially as if Tansey had been fouled in the act of kicking, the pen would've been given where the ball landed, I'm also still not completely sure whether Silverwood blew his whistle before Whiting got tackled though'" He didn't he ran to keep up with play.. Rovers should he been penalised were Whiting was tackled ..Watch the recording of the game and if he had scored the try would have stood because the advantage at the time was in Hulls favor ..The only time it should have been took back if Hull had made the foul 
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| Quote kt170496="kt170496"He didn't he ran to keep up with play.. Rovers should he been penalised were Whiting was tackled ..Watch the recording of the game and if he had scored the try would have stood because the advantage at the time was in Hulls favor ..The only time it should have been took back if Hull had made the foul
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Please feel free to explain this:
[size=150Unless otherwise stated, the mark is where the offence occurs.[/size
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| Quote kt170496="kt170496"He didn't he ran to keep up with play.. Rovers should he been penalised were Whiting was tackled ..Watch the recording of the game and if he had scored the try would have stood because the advantage at the time was in Hulls favor ..The only time it should have been took back if Hull had made the foul
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No they shouldn't have. The tackle should have stood, game stopped, and Newton put on report afterwards.
If the ref wanted to put Newton on report, he did not have to give a penalty. There was no need to give a penalty, or point. If he wanted to give a penalty, he should have done it straight away rather than let play go on if he felt it was necessary to stop the game. It was a ridiculous decision and I just can't understand why he did it.
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| Right! Silverwood saw a penalisable offence, as such he couldn't ignore it. Had Whiting scored from the play, I have no doubt that Silverwood would award the try and then ask the MC to cite the incident or at least mention it in his report.
We can't expect the penny and the bun.
If Silverwood had missed the offence but the TJ had seen it, play would have continued until Whiting was tackled. The TJ would have remained opposite the site of the offence, Silverwood would stop the game at Whiting's tackle, go back to speak with the TJ and then bring play back to the original offence.
What's the difference?
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"No they shouldn't have. The tackle should have stood, game stopped, and Newton put on report afterwards.
If the ref wanted to put Newton on report, he did not have to give a penalty. There was no need to give a penalty, or point. If he wanted to give a penalty, he should have done it straight away rather than let play go on if he felt it was necessary to stop the game. It was a ridiculous decision and I just can't understand why he did it.'"
Thats how I see it. I just can't see how taking Hull back 60 metres to then award them the penalty can be right. Rules need looking at if this is so.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Silverwood saw a penalisable offence, as such he couldn't ignore it. Had Whiting scored from the play, I have no doubt that Silverwood would [... ask the MC to cite the incident or at least mention it in his report.
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So why didn't he do that and just play on from where Whiting was tackled without having to stop the game at all? Why the need to take the play back 60m, effectively rewarding the team that committed the offence? If he has the power to report incidents without giving the Bat-Signal, why didn't he use that power in a situation that clearly warranted it?
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"So why didn't he do that and just play on from where Whiting was tackled without having to stop the game at all? Why the need to take the play back 60m, effectively rewarding the team that committed the offence? If he has the power to report incidents without giving the Bat-Signal, why didn't he use that power in a situation that clearly warranted it?'"
So you would prefer him to ignore a penalisable offence, just in case we scored a try? But then award a penalty from where play was stopped or should he just ignore the offence totally?
As I said before, you can't have the penny and the bun. Nor can you ignore the fact that the laws of the glame clearly state:
[size=200Unless otherwise stated, the mark is where the offence occurs.[/size

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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"So you would prefer him to ignore a penalisable offence, just in case we scored a try?'"
I'd prefer him to take whatever action was most beneficial to the team against which the offence was committed.
Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"But then award a penalty from where play was stopped'"
No because that's ridiculous.
Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"or should he just ignore the offence totally?'"
If not ignoring the offence means rewarding the offending team then yes, ignore away.
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[size=200Unless otherwise stated, the mark is where the offence occurs.[/size
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I have no issue with that. The issue I have is with giving a penalty when it was not necessary. As you stated previously, he has the power to cite the incident anyway, without having to put it 'on report', so why the need to stop the game at all if doing so means penalising the victims?
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| Quote Leggysfaithful="Leggysfaithful"Whiting needs to be signed up and sharpish! We fans can't be the only people who see his worth, so if we don't do the right thing and tie him down then I reckon a lot of super league teams would snap him up without thinking twice! 3 year deal please FC!!'"
Totally agree! I've been saying this for ages. He has more than earned a long term deal. Why should a player of his quality not have the security of a long deal. I would give him a three or four year contract. No hesitation.
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