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| Quote TRB="TRB"There is a fine balance to be achieved through the signing of new players and the retention of others. Some average players may actually deliver better value for us than some of our 'stars', and with form like we have it is difficult to know exactly what the right track to take is.
There is no truth to my knowledge that we are being forced to sell because of any downturn. Likewise though, the pot is not over-ful and we must get good value from what we spend!'"
That is exactly my point TRB.
It is the high earners that arent giving value for money on the whole.The only one that isnt a high is Henderson and i just dont see anything from him that a British NL1 player could do.
The average players/average earners on the whole im pretty pleased with - Wilkes,Bibey,Grix,Snitch,Ferguson,Pitts.
I also dont believe we are being forced to sell - but i will be massively dissapointed if some of the current batch of OOC players are offered new deals.They quite simply dont merit them,well not on the current terms theyre on.
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| Quote TURFEDOUT="TURFEDOUT"That is exactly my point TRB.
It is the high earners that arent giving value for money on the whole.The only one that isnt a high is Henderson and i just dont see anything from him that a British NL1 player could do.
The average players/average earners on the whole im pretty pleased with - Wilkes,Bibey,Grix,Snitch,Ferguson,Pitts.
I also dont believe we are being forced to sell - but i will be massively dissapointed if some of the current batch of OOC players are offered new deals.They quite simply dont merit them,well not on the current terms theyre on.'"
the problem is though you have to look at them in the context of who else is available in what position and for what kind of money. if there are no replacements who are available on the same money or less, then what have you gained? better the devil you know? alternatively you could argue that a change for some players would benefit themselves and the club. its not an exact science it's is a value judgement at the end of the day and all clubs make errors when signing or re-signing players
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| How do we find out which are the high and which are the low wage earners?
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| Quote owiepob="owiepob"How do we find out which are the high and which are the low wage earners?'"
You dont
but from what ive heard drew, brough, rooney, martin biggest earners.
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| Quote mwildcats="mwildcats"We have a team full of aussies that in the majority couldnt get alot of games in the NRL, and then we have the other side which are made up of players who used to play in the NRL (why where they there?), we do however have a few players that dont come into either category.
So i came across this comment and it immediately struck me and made me realise that is the performances where getting all that we can hope for. and if so why? Is the club bringing the wrong players in, and if other teams can generate a squad of "better players" on a similar budget and have been over the last few years been getting better results then what have we got to change. Everyone including myself have stuck up for JK because of the tremendous work he had done, and keep saying he gets 100% out of the players look how they've improved for example, moore, bibey, grix etc but the quote was
getting the best out of average players just means your getting average....
Does this mean we have to adjust our expectations ?'"
Who are these Clubs who have a similar budget to us but are producing better squads? I would argue that for what we spend we are punching well above our weight having been on a fairly even keel with the likes of Hull KR, Hudds, Wire and Bradford despite them spending way more than us and having better crowds.
We all want the club to improve but on our attendances we never will because the money just isn't there. This means that we do need to get the best out of average players with a sprinkling of better quality players. Now the signing of both the average and above average is the key personally I don't think we're doing to bad and can't think of any realistic coaching option who would be better than JK.
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| Quote owiepob="owiepob"How do we find out which are the high and which are the low wage earners?'"
Guess ---
Here goes.
=redEdited TRB - sorry but that it highly inaccurate and I don't think we should go as far as trying to guess the numbers directly
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| I dont mind fans slgging players off - you pay your money and have an opinion. That said I cant believe that so many fans can turn so quickly after a few defeats. Seems a bit OTT to me. I reckon that we have a good team excellent coaching staff and a very bright future.
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| Heard a certain overseas outside back is on >£70k said man probably cost us in region of £10k per game! Bargain!
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| I think we are above an average team, we are not title contenders but I would like to see the rest how the season pans out before we had a clear out of any players,
I get to talk to barry eaton on a regular basis and he has told me that after every game he always finishes on a positive then a negative when talking to his team,
may be our supporters should take the same attitude rather than coming away angry.
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| Quote snowie="snowie"I think we are above an average team, we are not title contenders but I would like to see the rest how the season pans out before we had a clear out of any players,
I get to talk to barry eaton on a regular basis and he has told me that after every game he always finishes on a positive then a negative when talking to his team,
may be our supporters should take the same attitude rather than coming away angry.'"
no offence snowie but i think you're in dream land if you think we are above average. we have finished in the play offs once. we are an average team at best and i am perfectly comfortable with that. for how many seasons in superleague have we struggled against relegation? i will be happy with a top 10 finish personally and accept the restrictions the club faces season after season. as long as we continue to make progress off the field regarding a stadium which will ultimately secure our long term future, then i can put up with our lot on it for now.
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| Quote St. Chunter="St. Chunter"no offence snowie but i think you're in dream land if you think we are above average. we have finished in the play offs once. we are an average team at best and i am perfectly comfortable with that. for how many seasons in superleague have we struggled against relegation? i will be happy with a top 10 finish personally and accept the restrictions the club faces season after season. as long as we continue to make progress off the field regarding a stadium which will ultimately secure our long term future, then i can put up with our lot on it for now.'"
I think he means the bunch of players we have at the club is above average and which I agree with. We have some very good players who on there day could beat anyone!
I would be very dissapointed if we did not finish in the top 8. We should aim for at least the top 5/6
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| Quote Mutts="Mutts"
WE ARE AN AVERAGE SL CLUB
yes i wanna see success but im a realist.'"
Agree totally but would also add PLAYING IN AN AVERAGE SL
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