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| Quote Stealth Comic="Stealth Comic"
No she was stupid because folk pi55ing off and supporting somebody else is the absolute very last thing this club needs at the moment. Especially fans who have stuck by the club through thick and thin.
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From where I was stood I didn't hear anyone telling him to Pi55 off, however two people said "if you want to talk like that, why don't you go and support someone else".
I could turn your statement around and say that they were justified baring in mind the promotions the club have put on for children and women. The last thing it needs is people swearing loudly and putting them off.
The singing is brilliant the loud swearing is not (IMHO).
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| Quote Stealth Comic="Stealth Comic" At the same time they seem to think that the sun shines out of the players' backsides and that they are beyond criticism on any level whatsoever.
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That's simply not true. Again we have been over this before, what people think and discuss amongst themselves may be quite different to what they shout during a game at the players. I prefer something motivational to something abusive, but that's only my opinion.
You could see that JD was down after the game, I preferred to comment "get your head up, we are better than this" than "we were F*ing cr@p". But again that's only my opinion.
Quote Stealth ComicAgreed, in the last few days i've been fired up more than usual due to some unfortunate personal circumstances.'"
I hope you get them sorted.
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"You come across as a reasoned poster but here I think you are taking an unbalanced view because it’s your mate. Lots of fans swear but not at a volume that can be heard in Tommy Holmes.
People have reacted to loud swearing in this way at Cougar Park for years, surely your mate knows this or does 20 years give him dispensation? Will he get a bag of free rotten tomatoes to throw for 30 years support, and a set of stocks for 50? I’m being stupid now, but you can see my point.'"
We do have a kind of structure to it.
1. You can't say "Gerrum on side Ref" until your second game at Cougar Park.
2. You can't say "Forrrrrrrrrrward" until you've not missed a home game in 6 months or watched 2 successive Leeds Whinos games on Sky.
3. No one is allowed to make the V for Victory sign and shout " Two! Two! Two!" for a kickable penalty in the first half unless you're Obeone.
4. You can't say "There's two teams ref" until you're in your third season.
5. Saying the word Br*dford or B*lls in any context, including if they're getting beat by 90 points, is forbidden, Dulls or B*llsh***ers must be used ideally the latter.
6. Finally you can't say "Give him a bucket" until you been coming for 10 years.
We don't have anything that covers swearing
Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"It seems like you are excusing your mates behaviour based on how “good” a supporter you think he is, whilst not accepting the same mitigation for someone who shouts back at him. Don’t you think that everyone was frustrated with the team’s performance? Maybe they were frustrated by your mate’s constant high volume chelping.
What if others have supported the club for more years than him, put more money into the club, were more loyal, had a bigger shop that sold better burgers etc…etc – does it give them more rights? '"
Absolutely not. As I posted previously I can't defend the use of the F-Word in the context of the Family Sport mantra the RFL have decided to force upon us, only offer mitigation. Likewise I can accept the same mitigation for someone telling somebody to go and support someone else however daft I think it maybe to say it.
I remember when I was a lad (and it makes me feel far too old saying that given I was asked for ID in Sainsbury's last week) attitudes were so much more liberal to what you could and couldn't say at a game. I used to love it because it was the only place I was allowed to swear and not get a bollocking off my dad, it still is to be honest  . We'd go back in to school and talk about that chant about the referee and who Joe Grima had battered and whether or not we'd washed our hand after Carlton Farrell had given us a high five whilst running down the edge of the pitch.
What i'm getting at is whilst society in general is becoming more liberal Rugby League has become more prudish and in my opinion to it's detriment. Of course there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, racism, sectarianism, bigotry, homophobia, use of the C-Word, hooliganism and other biff that's not confined to the 34 men playing. You've got to admit it was so much better down at Cougar Park 15 years ago.
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| Jesus,one F word and people go balistic
How many times do you hear it on the streets,in the town,at schools,in the workplace ,in the bar? need i go on?
What about last season when Barry was giving the players what for when letting in a sloppy try. F this f that.Nobody said a dickie bird cause we all knew he was right.Then a couple of seasons ago when we played York and one of the March brothers (god bless em  )dived on one of our players after he was tackled.
We all went crazy and the language was pure filth,me included,once again not a dickie bird
FFS whats wrong with everybody 
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| Quote Stealth Comic="Stealth Comic"
What i'm getting at is whilst society in general is becoming more liberal '"
Now you've opened up a can of worms! I could strongly argue that parts of society are NOT more liberal.
Quote Stealth ComicRugby League has become more prudish and in my opinion to it's detriment. '"
All sport has been. It started with the national effort to curb football hooliganism. I remember being stood in the Longside at Turf Moor as a 14 year old - Things have changed for the better.
Quote Stealth ComicYou've got to admit it was so much better down at Cougar Park 15 years ago.'"
Yes it was much better - we had the spice boys.  At a time when alternative comedians were making swearing fashionable, [ithey[/i took football songs and replaced the swear words to such good effect that it was fun - everyone loved them. Kids used to come down just to say they had stood next to them, adults would move to that part of the ground just to join in, when we were away they galvanised our support. They made coming to rugby an event. Sure they swore occasionally and amongst themselves, but they self policed themselves and quite often actually apologised to those who heard them. Lads who got drunk, had fun, and made match day an enjoyable experience for others (except the away team).
I'll say it again, just for those with selective hearing, The singing is brilliant, the loud swearing isn't.
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| Quote obeone="obeone"Jesus,one F word and people go balistic
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That is simply not true.
I heard the swearing, I told him to shut up (as did at least 30 others) and that was that. His behaviour did not make me want to run on here and complain, because I accept that in the heat of the moment such things happen.
I had no intention of mentioning it on this board, but what I objected to here, was Stealth's apparent mitigation of his mate's behaviour yet condemnation of someone who complained, that's what made me post.
Quote obeoneHow many times do you hear it on the streets,in the town,at schools,in the workplace ,in the bar? need i go on?'"
Quite true, and within reason and at a moderate volume, I couldn't give two hoots. I use a few choice words myself.
However, what would happen if:
You shouted in the Bank at the top of your voice "your F*ing cr@p"
You shouted at the headteacher at the top of your voice "your F*ing cr@p"
You shouted at your boss at the top of your voice "your F*ing cr@p"
You shouted at the bargirl in a nightclub at the top of your voice "your F*ing cr@p"
Need I go on
If, at a rugby match you swear conversationally it's unlikely to be overheard, but if a family overhears you, they can at least move a few meters until it's lost in the background noise. However, if you shout at the top of your voice you don't give them the choice - they can hear you everywhere.
Quote obeoneWhat about last season when Barry was giving the players what for when letting in a sloppy try. F this f that.Nobody said a dickie bird cause we all knew he was right.'"
Not true. I heard several people complain.
Quote obeoneFFS whats wrong with everybody
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Nothing, what's wrong with you
This is a message board, people have different opinions. It's not the end of the world.
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| Right I've sat back and read all these posts and now it's time to say my piece,yes it was me that used the F word on Sunday,and I am ashamed of myself for doing so,I have 2 children myself and do not condone that particular swear word on any level,yes I did wrong,I admit it but have to defend myself and those who know me well enough will know that I want the best for Keighley,it was in the heat of the moment of a very frustrating afternoon of rugby,it won't happen again I assure you,one because I'll be making a conscious effort of those around me and secondly,perhaps I'll give up on the singing,95% of what came out of mouth on Sunday was praise and encouragement,the other 5 % was a regretful mistake,oh and Dreamer I did PM you a few days ago apologising,not sure if you read it,anyway that's it.
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| Quote andrew aspinall="andrew aspinall"Right I've sat back and read all these posts and now it's time to say my piece,yes it was me that used the F word on Sunday,and I am ashamed of myself for doing so,I have 2 children myself and do not condone that particular swear word on any level,yes I did wrong,I admit it but have to defend myself and those who know me well enough will know that I want the best for Keighley,it was in the heat of the moment of a very frustrating afternoon of rugby,it won't happen again I assure you,one because I'll be making a conscious effort of those around me and secondly,perhaps I'll give up on the singing,95% of what came out of mouth on Sunday was praise and encouragement,the other 5 % was a regretful mistake,oh and Dreamer I did PM you a few days ago apologising,not sure if you read it,anyway that's it.'"
Top man.....
What a hippocrite I would have been if I'd have entered this debate...!
There wouldn't have been any glass in my greenhouse
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| Quote andrew aspinall="andrew aspinall"Right I've sat back and read all these posts and now it's time to say my piece,yes it was me that used the F word on Sunday,and I am ashamed of myself for doing so,I have 2 children myself and do not condone that particular swear word on any level,yes I did wrong,I admit it but have to defend myself and those who know me well enough will know that I want the best for Keighley,it was in the heat of the moment of a very frustrating afternoon of rugby,it won't happen again I assure you,one because I'll be making a conscious effort of those around me and secondly,perhaps I'll give up on the singing,95% of what came out of mouth on Sunday was praise and encouragement,the other 5 % was a regretful mistake,oh and Dreamer I did PM you a few days ago apologising,not sure if you read it,anyway that's it.'"
I'm sorry Andrew, I didn't see your PM. Have sent you one in return.
It wasn't the swearing that made me post, more the way it was defended. I must admit that once I get drawn into a debate I find it hard to let go until I've had my say.
We all come down to support cougars in our own way and I hope you continue to sing and enjoy yourself.
We are all frustrated by recent performances, lets just hope they can turn it around
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What a hippocrite I would have been if I'd have entered this debate...!
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Is that as in Hippopotamus ........ or as in [ihypocrite[/i 
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| A joke but not the best what do you get if you cross the all blacks pre match chant and lead singet of wet wet wet.......Acca pellow. Blame it on the booze.
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| That is a very [idodgy[/i joke.
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