Leeds have got some talented young players and I'm sure they'll throw the ball around a bit; we should do the same. We certainly won't beat anyone with the pedestrian attack we've seen lately. But I feel as pessimistic as most of you guys,not least re Peet; even with the best will in the world, the guy is on the back foot from Day 1.

According to Lam on Wigan TV, we were in good shape at half time last Friday.



Crazy.

i suppose in 1 sense he was right. Saints had only looked like scoring once and then an easy ball steal on the line, so i could understand if thats where he was coming from



outside of that, we had created nothing at all in attack and hadnt put any form of pressure on Saints defensively, and the build up of ball / pressure showed in the 2nd half as tehy didnt need to do that much to win the game

It’s that kind of delusion that infuriates me. How can Rads and IFL not see through this delusion? If he thinks we were in great shape at HT our standards have fallen not so much through the floor but all the way to Earths core.



Uncle Mo wasn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination but this wouldn’t have been accepted. This policy of not sacking a coach mid season is codswallop. It really is. You’re not telling me a guy who is on a year to year contract would have been expensive to fire off? You’re also not thing me that we couldn’t afford to fire him off and get a better coach in? Aka Brian McDermott?



I find myself getting so disillusioned with Wigan RL these days. I can’t bring myself to find anything positive about the place. And that’s actually quite upsetting really. I don’t remember feeling like this about Wigan even in 2006.

As an ex half back and pretty good attacking player, I find that comment by him completely hilarious

to be fair, I was 'happy' with the score at half time, had we anything in attack, we could have been poised for an exciting second half.....

I’m not sure that we can fix our many issues before tomorrow night which has been further compounded by the latest bans on two of our most experienced players.



I agree with you 100% that our single biggest issue is that we are so slow in attack that we will be vulnerable against any team and with Leeds needing wins to move up the table another defeat I think is almost inevitable.



I am a bit nonplussed with the Peet appointment and on balance would probably go with a new broom so to speak however, there would be as much risk in going that route so at this point I just hope that IL has made the right decision.

This weeks BBC RL 5Live Podcast has Kevin Brown, Phil Wilkinson and Gareth Walker on all discussing Wigan and not once do any of them mention the main issue - the coach.



KB almost gets there but bottles it. Phil Wilkinson plays it like we’re all fickle and it’ll be reet if we win 2 games and Gareth Walker just a mix of both. Why do we have such abysmal journalists and pundits who are scared of touching the real issue? If this was football and say Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool the press would be circling like vultures. I’m not saying that’s right but at least they’ve got bottle to actually say what the fans are thinking and not make it up like PW.

Depending on who PW speaks too, that may be right. There'll be plenty of people who think he's been unlucky with injuries etc and was "2 mins away from winning the grand final"

TBH I feel it is a bit of both.



I think it’s time for a change and I don’t feel Lam is getting what he should out of this team and hasn’t done throughout his tenure.



Having said that there are a number of mitigating factors that are out of Lam’s control. We have, yet again had a significant number of injuries and we are clearly fatigued with the frequency of games we have played. He doesn’t have the personnel up front which the GB fiasco was meant to resolve.

Local media struggle with the football as well as the rugby. I suppose it’s probably to do with access to the clubs and it being removed as is sometimes the case elsewhere. The level of scrutiny doesn’t go anywhere near far enough which is why last week’s mauling by Sculthorpe et al, although painful to watch, actually had a lot of truth in it.

174 minutes without a try.



There is literally no excuse for Lam still being head coach, irrespective if we somehow pull of a win tonight. Leeds down to 12, 11, 12 and we still didn’t look like scoring. Shorrocks throwing balls from dummy half everywhere, shift it left and give it Faz. Shift it right and let’s just make it up. This standard of rugby is absolutely appalling. There’s better on offer at amateur level than this.