His stats were good and proved his impact was good.



He was consistently our best prop for the last two years and I'd guess he will be again.

You've just contradicted yourself haven't you? On the one hand you say he's not been hung out to dry and then you go on to say that his ban was far too long? Ben is hardly a well known thug on the pitch and had a very good disciplinary record before the incident. None of this seemed to be taken into accoun.



Some of the talk at the time of police involvement and anger management classes went too far imo. It was a witch hunt at one point and I think the club could have backed him a little louder.

To be fair I do remember your previous posts. I was just reacting to your last one with all of the exclamation marks. I shall therefore remove you from the aforementioned outraged classes.

I don't think he was hung out to dry for his actions but I play and know things boil over. I like the tough part of the game so I'm not really into handing out 6 month bans but I can see why he got that ban and I beleive wigan made comment that they except the ban and fully deserved.



He's been backed by everyone and by no means at all hung out to dry and 100% Shouldnt have got the red carpet hero treatment he got. After all, you would have won the final by "30 points Easy" if it wasn't for him

I had it down as forty points





I guess we will have to just agree to disagree. I personally don't think it warranted a 6 month ban. I've seen slightly worse actions on a pitch result in far less (Isaac Luke trying to break Chase's ankle only got 2 weeks).



People always like to see a return and that's why he got such a good ovation imo. I will say it's probably a little hypocritical of some as many of those cheering will be the same cretins who were calling for his head! But sometimes in sport you have to look after your own and that's what this was.

And I 100% agree that 6 month was to long Imo but I can see why the RFL had to do it.



I personally thougt 6 to 8 games for it.

Last season his stats were just above Jordan James and below Clubb who was adjusting to a new position and didn't play that much. He has never been anything but an average prop at best, metres gained last season he wasn't in the top 50 which is disgraceful since that's his job

Taylor was our best prop by some distance - when he's in shape and motivated he's an absolute force. A future international if he wants to be.



I think Flower is very good though - he has a surprising step that usually hurts the opposition. He'll made a positive impact now that he's returned - the bench suddenly looks much stronger.

You can just tell Taylor won't fulfil his full potential. He's out of shape and blows too hot and cold for me.



He was at a club that could have taken him to another level and given him a pathway to the top but he decided to take the easy option. I hope the penny drops because his talent is huge.

He is our best prop

Given the abuse and world wide coverage of the incident I think that he deserved the welcome back. 100% the cheer back onto the pitch to show that the Wigan fans support him coming back into the team.

Ain't you missing the point that he caused all this. He's on sky saying he didn't deserve the standing ovation he got as he let everybody down.