He was well past it by the time he came over here IMO

I wouldn't say that. He may be past his best now but he was only 26 when we signed him and he spent his first season here playing centre, which isn't his best position

Jamie Ainscough played State of Origin

Course he was!



I mean what a ridiculous decision it was to Sign an Origin/Aus International when he was way past it at 26 when he signed for us!

Someone who hardly missed a game in his first 2 1/2 years at the club and was one of the most influnetial and instrumental people in turning a shambles of a club mid 2006 into a team challenging for honours the year after through the proffesionalism he brought to the club.



A guy who leads by example on & off the pitch and by all accounts from those who are in the dressing room with the guys a Real Leader!



Yeah, maybe it will be time end of year for him to move on, but no-one should criticise anything this guy has done for us over the last 3 1/2 years on & off the pitch!

And your point is?



He was another Scapegoat that the "Experts" got stuck into early on and didn't let go!



Another player that because he didn't set the world on fire from day one the fans got on his back until he left followed by a string of others and we ended up with David Cackaleaki etc etc and we all know how that ended up!



Thank god the short sighted, short termed mentality of the club seems to be a thing of the past and instead of chopping and changing 1/2 the team every year we seem to be going for the more stable long term view!

But the scapegoat culture of the fans is still alive and kicking.

I would give Bailey 12 more months with a view to coaching. We need to keep experienced players to help develop players like Joel, Mossop and Farrell. Bailey is not a world class player but he is a world class leader. Look at the way he had protect Sam and Tim Smith last year in defense. We could end up loseing Fielden, Coley, Feka, McIllorum from the pack at the end of the year. That is too many to lose all at once, we did it before when the likes of Craig Smith, Mick Cas, O'Connor, etc left and the team fell apart. Bailey loves it at Wigan, he has pride in the shirt and always gives 100%. He is a natural leader and is the kind of guy who would help develop our younger players in the under 18's and under 20's.

I think you missed my point



He has been a good signing for us, and i mostly agree with what you say, but you cant say hes reached the highs that got him into a NSW jersey

Nobody is saying that he has. Bails has never really been a flashy highlight-reel kind of player but he's a solid pro and someone that the younger members of the squad look up to and respect, therefore we should think carefully about what course of action we take with him. His leadership qualities will be sorely missed

Give him a new three year deal on big money, the youngsters can really learn how to tackle by watching Money Bags.

Tomkins and Mossop don't need to develop. They are already better than him. Farrell had a much better game than Bailey today.



He had a poor game today.

Spot on sadly.



Bailey is no longer good enough to displace Hansen or Joel in the starting 13 and I'drather have Mossop, Faz or even Hock on the bench.



Yes he offers us leadership but with an obvious need for a new prop why don't we sign one who is a leader e.g. Luke Bailey?



If Bailey is a good guy 2 have around the club then make him a coach.

You could say that about many players that have been signed from Australia over the years...



But not Phil Bailey.



He had a stinker today but there are other reasons why we lost todays game imo.

Had a feeling Phil would be the scapegoat at the end of the game. Didnt have one of his best games but didnt help with Pryce going off with an injury in the 2nd half. I still thought he took the ball up well, maybe better than he has done so far this season.