With all this talk of will we or wont be a round next season or season after that. Or where we will be playing. what happened with Brentford and the talk of them getting a new ground at Lionel Rd(i think it was), and that they might like to share the ground with a rugby club(union or league).

I'm not sure what your point is. My 'presumption' is the complete opposite. My point is that I agree with Sandy except for Sandy's comment implying that RL needing a team in London was rubbish - or put another way: I disagree with the view that its rubbish that RL needs a team in London. My argument is that without expansion, RL will not gain the income streams it needs to thrive in the long term etc etc & London is a key part of that expansion.

I even comment on the positive development of the youth & amateur game in London. I do not agree with some on here that the London side should be given more Sky money than others because of the costs of living in London - there are plenty of other issues that disadvantage other clubs & there's no way that everything can be evened out for everyone. But I do say that what the RFL should be looking at is supporting the marketing of the game in London. The RFL already does a fair bit with its support to the development of the youth & amateur game (& Quins RL do too), but if it matched that with support in marketing, the senior game could take some big steps forward.



Sadly I dont see that happening, & sadly I fear for SL in London - even for next season. I hope my fears are wrong, but the writing on the wall seems to be getting larger & larger with every bit of news that comes out of the Quins camp at the moment.

You seem to be saying more than Quins at the moment and the only thing they have said was said 72 hours ago then you must be in very close with a club whose present owner who ideally wants to scale back his outgoings on the club. I don't know where you go to read your writing on walls, or why you are reading what's written on walls, but please continue with the knowledge that Harlequins RL press or media releases are not written on walls. (Unless that is the way to save money in the future.)

Harlequins RL unlike many Heartland clubs has no overdraft and no bank loans.

You may have hit on way for Quins to spread the word. Lets be honest most men read whats on certain walls then any where else...just leave the name Quins and a phone number





sorry i know not a subject to joke about with whats happening but just a little note to lighten the mood.

That is not how I interpret what you said! and your response is even more confusing at times. As Londo06 says clearly! you seem to know more than we do who are closer to the reality of the club.



But it is funny how many Northern supporters always seem to know something, often if it unclear what they do know?

let me just say this in reply, the "rugby league needs a london presence" theory is a line constantly trotted out by sky tv and it suits them as they are southern based, its a view red hall have adopted because sky are the paymasters after all and basically whatever they say the RFL will do. The london based press don't believe in this strap line if their coverage is anything to go by. I can also understand why you lads down there seize on it as a lifebelt when it comes to franchise time. I don't buy it, rugby league is alive and well and thriving in the south due to the many number of volunteers, enthusiasts and helpers who run the amateur scene, and in answer to the other poster if sky one day decide to pull out and take their bat and ball home (not to mention their cash) rugby league will carry on after all it has for a hundred and numerous years, with incidentally teams from other parts of the country than the M62 corridor!



Now having said all that I really do hope you carry on due to the fact regardless of where you are in the country you have as much if not more legitimacy of any team who might want to replace you to be in superleague, widnes, leigh, batley, barrow and featherstone don't offer more than you do to the competition at the moment. I do think going forward you'll need to move though, someone said people wont watch a losing team wherever it is but its patently obvious you wont improve your squad without bigger gates and more income.



anyway good luck for the future.

Cas/Wakefield/Salford have had anything up to 120 years to sort themselves out and find a good financial model. Quins have had 30 and at present things are tough. If they need assistance to bridge the gap then they should be given it. Quins are not on a level playing field at present because they do not have the long history the northern clubs have; a history which ensures that people are aware of their local rugby league club even if they choose not to support it. People in London are often not even aware Quins RL exist. If they need support to change that then that's fine by me.



Meanwhile, Wakey and Cas should ground share, otherwise it is likely to end up in tears. In the Championship.

Its all good people saying rugby league will continue if sky pulled out but it is not as easy that. Yeah the game will continue but not like we see it!



You can forget the high salaries, new stadiums and would it would lead to top players going to the NRL. Rugby League in Europe needs sky, the RFL and every single club know's this.



Expansion has to continue people!!

Do you not think that crowds will improve though when the new stadium is built.

You only have to look at the likes of Hull and Warrington to see that this is the case.

Saints at the moment are averaging roughly 11,000 so I would say that with the new stadium I reckon we will average 13,500 at least.

Okay fellas, let's be honest, Rugby League as a sport is failing.



Horrible thing to say I know, but since Union went professional, they have learnt how to get in a new fan base and League has just faded away to the point where the sport is a joke. International League is like international NFL - an oxymoron.



If League is serious, then QRL has to be supported, but calling it QRL is wrong. The club is London Broncos - as LB means something, QRL doesn't.



The RFL has to support a Professional SL London Team, otherwise the sport will die. The RFL should spend money on promoting a London Based SL club, all we need is more bums on seats and then the current problems will dissipate. Expecting the current set up to do this in isolation is not only unfair, it is wrong.



Also, News International could easily run promotions through discounted tickets, competition etc., but it doesn't which begs the question is NI interested in League any more? Union gets better crowds, better advertising revenue so what's in it for Sky?



If London fails, the sport professionally will die. Support a London side or see your teams fade away as well as Sky could easily drop the sport and plug in more Union.

Only time will tell! but I doubt it, yes at first the new factor but long term No!



It is so encouraging how many others club's supporters seem to visiting our board to express their opinions! though I was born in the borough of St Helens and still live there I was accused yesterday of being a "Troll" for commenting on the board - LOL - as if that worried me "The Chief Scout" - watched rugby league since I was six and only been physically attacked on one ground, yes Knowsley Road and called a "Cockney F ****r" as I was pushed around leaving the stand after the game which we drew!