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| Quote Alan="Alan"Steve, if you were at the last Forum, and listened to the Finances presentation, I would suggest that the 'short-term' has not yet been fixed at all, and isn't likely to be until the end of the year.
I suppose it depends on your definition of 'short-term', but the problems we were facing then haven't exactly gone away, and are still being addressed.
Sure, we must look to the future, but we daren't take our eyes off the immediate future.'"
The short term or immediate future is in the hands of the players now, I dont see what the administration can do apart from ' Door knocking ' at sponsors and general ' rich people ' , unfortunatly our club has a long history of short termism, thats why we are in the predicament we find ourselves
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| Quote Toadstool="Toadstool"How we do this is moot......'"
No , its simple
For some reason the quote function isnt working
You mentioned marketing and community
What marketing? , have we ever done any? , have we ever had a marketing budget?
As for the community, it has been neglected since we left Hilton Park, support it properly, challenge it, give it the tools to do the job and you get results
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"The short term or immediate future is in the hands of the players now, I dont see what the administration can do apart from ' Door knocking ' at sponsors and general ' rich people ' , unfortunatly our club has a long history of short termism, thats why we are in the predicament we find ourselves'"
Steve can I just ask how you know this, or are you just 'assuming' again, going off what previous administrations did?
It would help when you make accusations like this, if you came up with some solid facts to back up your claims.
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| Quote mishmash="mishmash"And you've hit the nail on the head there Steve.
Think tanks are OK in their place but we need people who will actually take their time to do things (Let's just forget about you saying you came up with the idea of getting a database together then expecting others to go out and do it shall we?).
I can't speak for other groups but at the Tues morn PSG, we have Alan who does the programmes/communication, John who does the Junior Centurions, Eric and Mike who take care of the accounts, myself and Pete who do the radio/communication and Richie and Trevor (god knows what they do).
Then there's the NSFG who are all doing a fantastic job in organising things for match day.
So who is this 'think tank' you refer to?
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And I am not belittling anybodies efforts above, you are all passionate about your particular forte, would you be as passionate if you were told to swap jobs? So in effect you are proving my case for me, horses for courses and all that, we have a request for volunteers partly for an event 5 days away and to form an ' event team ' , we used to have an ' event team ' , it tended to comprise Hannah,Heather quite often ably supported by Gill and Diana
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| Quote mishmash="mishmash"Steve can I just ask how you know this, or are you just 'assuming' again, going off what previous administrations did?
It would help when you make accusations like this, if you came up with some solid facts to back up your claims.'"
Sorry mish, you are losing me again which bit am I making up? What accusations? , that we dont plan long term?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"The short term or immediate future is in the hands of the players now, I dont see what the administration can do apart from ' Door knocking ' at sponsors and general ' rich people ' , unfortunatly our club has a long history of short termism, thats why we are in the predicament we find ourselves'"
Yes, you quite clearly state that Leigh have always suffered from 'short termism', and imply that because of this, the current board must also suffer from this affliction. I was simply asking you how do you know they aren't making long term plans?
In fact I would suggest that the opposite is true and that whilst trying to balance the books for this season is the main priority, there is definitely a long term strategy in place.
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| Quote mishmash="mishmash"Yes, you quite clearly state that Leigh have always suffered from 'short termism', and imply that because of this, the current board must also suffer from this affliction. I was simply asking you how do you know they aren't making long term plans?
In fact I would suggest that the opposite is true and that whilst trying to balance the books for this season is the main priority, there is definitely a long term strategy in place.'"
I'll bow to your superior knowledge, and look forward to a bright future for the club , it'll be interesting to see how they will achieve it, maybe a Supporters Trust as I first suggested in the O/P, a bit like Barcelona
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| Jeez a few days out from here and the world appears to have gone mad!! Here's what I reckon will happen
1) present regime will run club for next 2 years
2) Rfl in that time period will revert back to P&R
3) someone with money will get involved with club via current set up
4) he/she will take over
5) cross roads we go on to have great times/ or go tits up
6) repeat steps 1-5!!
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| - or the club will read the whole of this thread and think "Why the f**k should we bother?" the fans are squabbling, then what's the point ?? ... And it seems to me that Maurice is trying to push his £1000 shareholders scheme again. It hasn't happened before, and won't this time. There isn't the cash, there Mo .... You may have it, but most of us don't ....
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| I am a little out of the Leigh RL loop these days, in fact my only real connection is coming on here and catching up every day.
However as someone heavily involved in a ST in another sport, and one that has raised over £1.6M in community shares towards funds to build a ground to play in, I am wondering why people think it won't work at Leigh RL?
For the record, at the the moment, I don't think it would work at Leigh, and I am only taking this forum as a barometer, then there aren't enough fans behind it for one reason or another.But my question is, to the people who aren't into this idea, why?
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| Quote Alan="Alan"Steve, if you were at the last Forum, and listened to the =#FF0000Finances presentation, I would suggest that the 'short-term' has not yet been fixed at all, and isn't likely to be until the end of the year.
I suppose it depends on your definition of 'short-term', but the problems we were facing then haven't exactly gone away, and are still being addressed.
Sure, we must look to the future, but we daren't take our eyes off the immediate future.'"
Whilst I applaud the efforts made by the 2 guys who did the finance presentation, if they are having a direct input on how we move forward overall then we should all fear the worst. Their message to us all was unless Paul and the lads win everything this year, seemingly including the Challenge Cup and perhaps also the next series of X Factor, we are doomed.
We need people who are a bit more dynamic with the ability to head problems off at the pass, not a pair of doom mongers reporting on historic information which frankly is patently obvious with the crowds we are generating.
Starbug has commented previously that we seem to exist only on a short term basis and he is absolutely spot on - within our fan base and more than likely the Touchdown Corporate people we must be able to draw upon more dynamic business people who have the ability to make things happen and to make it happen over the medium and long term. Our short term fix has been highly successful and Trevor and the PSG are to be applauded for that. Surely the time is now right to acknowledge that they have done a great job, however the fact they have the free time to get involved every week cannot be the main reason for their involvement.
If people don't understand this just look at Fev who have been advertising and marketing their Destination Super League campaign all season, which quite obviously is a 3 year plan to demonstrate sustainability at that level. In comparison our focus is to limp through this season with no strategic aims or targets - we need to learn this is why we are where we are and fast, get people involved to add value and start making things happen.
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| Oh I agree, Trev and the remaing board have done a great job in getting us this far . . .now who suggested that £1000 thingy . . . how does that work with a ST?
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