Its KING all the way theres no competition a player with a massive heart who wants to play for his club. Gleeson well what i want 2 say about him will get me banned from the site!!!!!

Matt King for me,even though his first season which he would admit himself was pretty average he has certainly proved his class now..



Gleeson just went through the motions for Wire IMO.



TKL's defence was poor even though in his first spell for us he was exciting with the ball in hand.

Hear hear. Class player, amazing really knowing we were "skint" at the time.

King played on't wing for a lot of his career. He achieved a lot before even coming over here.

Today's RLFans Made-Up-Fact.



Also apparently we had him locked-up in a cellar to force him to sign his extension to the contract.



Bewfore Wigan offered us a lot of money for him we had agreed to release him from his contract for nothing to go to Australia.





Back on topic difficult to say as King after awful form in his first season has been excellent. Gleeson was very good but did drop in form towards the end of his spell and does not appear to have re-gained his elusive footwork. Toa showed masses of potential but in truth never really delivered on that.



Overall for Warrington I would say Gleeson but if King has a good season again next year he will move ahead of him.

One thing King did in his bad first season was he scored a decent number of tries even though his form wasn't good, like Andy Cole in his early years at United when everybody was mocking him for being not the player he was at Newcastle, he still managed to find the net at a decent rate, so when he did come in to form his career strike rate looked excellent. Kings first season was a disappointment but not a disaster for me, and the fact he kept his hand in with tries and assists means overall his career for Wire looks very good.



I thought Toa did deliver on his potential, for a few years he was one of SL's top players, injuries took their toll on him when he was still in his mid 20s and he was never the same from about 2003 onwards. The other unfortunate thing was that when he was at his peak he wasn't playing in a top side. If he'd been at Saints or Bradford during his peak years he'd have been knocking on 25-30 tries a season and would have got noticed by the NZ Test selectors.

Yeh its suprising that we could afford him with all the money that Wigan, Leeds and Widnes were throwing around at the time, he was one of them rare players thats worth the admission money alone like Jonathon Davies, Phil Blake, Des Drummond and Les Boyd etc ..... X factor players so to speak.

You mean his NSW and Australian career, certainly not Melbourne.

TKL had 2.. maybe 3 seasons where he outperformed both King and Gleeson in their peak seasons for us.... For sheer explosiveness with ball in hand i would go TKL everytime.



King has been solid these last few season.. without really setting the world onfire... i will be honest.. i had expected more of him... dont get me wrong he has been good for us... but i think he will be easy to replace when he has gone.



Gleeson was decent... but like others have said... he played like he wasn't overly interested.



I would choose Bateman over all of them in a heartbeat though.

Good shout, Rob Wire

Five years of 100% commitment from Bateman (as well as being excellent), none of the commitment issues of Gleeson and (v early) King, a better tackler than all three mentioned (I remember him "dealing" with Tuigamala on a couple of occasions), probably faster than all 3, drank a lot less than a certain centre. Don't forget, this is also a guy who came from a (not hugely different, but still...) different sport.



Asides Bateman, I'd have loved to have seen Gleeson in our ranks , under a disciplinarian.

TKL blotted his Wire copybook, when other sides came sniffing, plus his tackling technique at times was woeful.

King just wasted his first season and the first 2 months of the next season. Again, would have been a lot better under a disciplinarian.



Sorry Sal, glaring omission, Bateman for me, too

Bateman also. I remember that game at Cas when we were down to 11 at one point, after Maguire basically decided he was getting sent off. Bateman was brilliant that day. Bandaged head an all.

Toa, King, Gleeson for me.



I think i expected too much from Gleeson, King has gradually got better and is now performing to expectations, but i think Sally hit the nail on the head, IF Toa was in the side we have now, i think he'd be far far better rated by most than King/Gleeson .