Did you ask why?

Deal.



I've enjoyed watching him but it's time for change. It's time to back the coach because god knows we've all backed the players enough times, only now, we've got a coach that you feel is worth backing.



He's the closest to the situation, day in day out, he'll got a gut feel for peoples motivations, appetite & such. If Smith, Gleeson or both think that it's the best for both parties, and we do okay out of the agreement, then I think it's time.



What is it that folk bring up, Individuals win matches, Teams win Trophies ? Something like that, I'll go with that, lets get a team together, and if sacrifice a bit of flair, or toss away a bit of talent that might well come back and bite us or whatever, then so be it, because it's all orientated towards getting what we want, success.

Sorry, I don't subscribe to this 'we nearly made it' nonsense. It's like saying we were quite good under Van de Velde because we made the quarter and semi-final of the Challenge Cup!

He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so personally i don't really care.



Smith [iprobably[/i wants committed players (Gleeson obviously isn't).



Personally i would prefer other players coming in.



offload him to leeds and get some promising talent like Ashley Gibson.



but getting in players that Wigan don't even want?



Wigan have been more successful in SL but they are still not a great team.



Gleeson would be making an even bigger mistake than the one he did leaving Saints.

I assume Smith is thinking back to when he worked with Mathers at Leeds. I am going to trust his judgment.

Very good player when on form, can sometimes be a bit inconsistent. He’ll be amazing for a run of games then have a lean spell for several games. Like most have stated you have to worry about the calibre of replacement if they can’t get into a poor Wigan side. It’s almost the equivalent deal of us swapping reardon (was once good + injury problems) and blythe (up and coming-ish player with super league experience who now can’t get into the team) for Carmont (their best centre).



Hopefully a nice chunk of cash will ease the pain and Tony smith can continue his revolution.

sally this is the best post ever thank you and i look forward to more whats your views on jon clarke villian or hero? I can never work the guy out

Deal..



If Smith isn't going to play him as a centre then we should get rid.



No Deal..



If Smith is going to put him back as centre.





But i would like to know the following before anything happens;



a)if Gleeson want to go

b)if Smith thinks PJ is a better centre

c)he thinks that Gleeson is a our best option at Stand Off.

d)we need the money.

Deal for me, I'm just wondering where this will leave us line-up wise? I think Riley has done okay at fullback and Johnson at centre, obviously Goulding and Mathers wouldn't both just stroll into the side but I see alot of upside in Goulding, put that together with Smith's track record of working with younger players and bringing them through then it all bodes well for the future. I may be wrong on this point but did Richie Mathers play stand-off at all in his academy days.

Is the deal being delayed waiting upon your approval?

Simple anwer; in Smith we trust.

He's going anyway so i suppose getting 2 average players in the deal is better than nothing