You just seemed more solid. It was all down the middle, Bradford Bulls kind of stuff, but I thought it looked like a really composed, well-drilled unit for sixty minutes. In the past, you have run them close, but it always seemed like a frantic, backs to the wall, play your heart out kind of approach, which doesn't tend to work over a whole season. You just seemed so much more in control for sixty minutes than maybe in other games, and I remember thinking that you were looking very good.



I know it went wrong in the end, but Saints had to claw themselves ahead, and if you replicate that control in other games, I reckon you'll have a good year.

Yeah, I agree with that. Our structures looked beter, and we held the ball for longer which helped. However when it came down to it, our defence was as bad as ever(don't worry he'll sort that by dragging Pennyh off), and by playing a more conservative game, it unfortunately meant that we didn't get the benefits of the 'off the cuff' style of the last few years.

Not seen anything that's inspired me, put it that way.

Not even the bloke with the sign, who loved Steph ?



(If running on the pitch is a £1,000 fine, why didn't he buy her a ring or a necklace or something, and have them write out one of those little tags. Wouldn't 'Steph' have preferred that ?)

Lets have a sense of perspective.



This is round one, against the most consistent team in Super League over the past however many seasons, at their own ground.



It is hard for any team to go to Saints and win even with a clean bill of health, we had four internationals out (Gleeson, Reardon, Vinnie Anderson and Clarke) plus one of our best young players in Grix. No team was going to be able to win there in those circumstances.



The problem is some of our delusional fans were banging on about this being the season we beat St Helens, so now we will have the knee jerk reactions after one defeat.



I saw enough signs in tonights game to be fairly confident that we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season, if we learn from our mistakes we will be contenders for the eight.

It happens every year Sally to be honest, the year we beat Saints may actually be the year we challenge!



However, I guess you could call it a knee jerk reaction, but with so little hype during pre-season, and all of this talk of doing things differently and so on, I thought the lads would go out and do their talking on the pitch and, for 40 minutes, they did, but then they just seemed to return to their old ways.





I said before, I won't make any real judgments on the side from tonight's result, it was deflating and gutting as every defeat is, but I'll be looking to be making better judgments after 5-10 games.



The only way is up, I guess...

Don't be so hard on your guys. They did it for 50 and then Saints clicked and gave it them back. I think Lowes drilled them well in the style of play that Bradford and Leeds (on a wet day) show. Well, that's all well and good but Saints are open rugby players (when they click). Driving up the middle isn't an answer to attacking open rugby (of the kind I like to see the Wolves play because it's so good to watch). Once we started swinging the ball around and actually passing it to players' hands rather than their chest and not dropping it, you had no answer, just as we have no answer to the drill down the middle then a kick which you gave to us in plenty for the first half. We have no kicking game and no answer to the kicking game and Wire kicked really well tonight and they drilled down the middle really well. Much better than us on both counts throughout the match. But we play expansive rugby really well and when we click we become very slippery.



I think you guys have plenty of positive stuff to take from tonight. I just hope this game doesn't have the negative effect on the way the team plays as it has done in recent times. I hope Lowes gets the men back up, puts it all into perspective - it really is just one game and the first one of the season at that - and keeps on building on what they did tonight because if that is what happens then I don't see why Wire can't be up there and in with as good a chance as anyone for the top spot.



I miss the old style of play though. That was far more exciting than the Bradford/Leeds drill up the middle and kick jobby. Oh well!

I love our fans! We are so negative! We are useless, nothing changes, no positives, slag the players off, rip the team apart, ignore the good stuff and focus on the bad. One game in and we are already suicidal - it's great!

For the first 50 minutes are so we were functional. The pack were fantastic, both with and without the ball. The game plan was obviously to keep it tight and make Saints work hard in defence. The half time stats showed Saints completion rate was down in the low 60%'s, ours was nearly 90%, 15/18 sets completed. Saints had made over 130 tackles, we had made less than 80. If anybody should have been blowing in the second stanza it was them. We were dominating the game without really looking dangerous.



However, this all seemed to go out of the window when Saints scored. We had 2 second row forwards playing at centre opposing each other, and Gilmour skinned Johnson with embarrasing ease. That's one positive, we know Johnson's got to be played in the pack in future. After Saints scored, the game plan seemed to go out of the window. Ill-discipline both in attack and defence lost us the game. We were very strong down the middle, however our fringe defence was poor in the second half and that's where we were found out.



Positives -



Riley - Superb effort again from the kid.



Penny - He runs the ball out well, his defence has greatly improved and his effort is no less than Riley's. The one player we have capable of scoring from distance (proven) and he never gets a pass. Unfortunately, he is Lowe's scapegoat. Disgrace to take him off and put Johnson on in his place at the end. These young kids should be the future of our club. Will blossom when Lowes leaves and we have a coach in situ who understands different people need to be handled in different ways.



Morley, Carvell, Wood, Rauhihi - If we can keep these four fit, the best set of props in the league. Great effort.



Higham - Quality signing



Westwood - Most improved player in SL over the past couple of seasons. Don't forget, he played right wing in the last game at Wilderspool





Harrison - Some big hits from the young lad and plenty of effort again



Negatives -



Half backs - Got to sort this out quickly. Total lack of cohesion and creativity. Created no go forward, this was all on the back of a great forward effort. As for the kicking game................. what kicking game?



Johnson - Back to the pack



Hicks - Gave the young Saints kid an easy debut. First time he got the ball he should have run straight at him - welcome to the big time kid! Instead, turned inside every time.



King - I'm still hoping he's settled in now and going to prove his worth. This is the first game of the season, but little seemed to have changed. Got to shape up or ship out. On a value for money basis, our worst performer.



The rest went OK.



I thought Saints would win by 14 so am not surprised we lost. I am disappointed we lost a 14-0 lead and conceded 6 tries in the last 30 odd minutes. The next 2 weeks will say more about our aspirations than today. Let's face it, on recent seasons form Catalans and Wakefield are more our level than Saints.

Positives - Riley was assured under pressure and had the confience to join the attacking line.



- Briers kicking game in the first half was good (he has no support whatsoever in this department)



- Westwood, non-stop work and a handful for the Saints defence all night.



- Rau made a fantastic impact when introduced.



- new signings went well.



Negatives - Monas - I want to believe he's going to come good but not I can't remember a scrum half having such a quiet game.



- King - get him on the wing with Bridge as his centre, it can't be any worse than the King-Penny partnership we've got at present.



- Johnson isn't a centre anymore - but a lack of gas isn't his fault, he's just getting on a bit and has had too many injuries. He'll do a great job for us in the back row.





We just couldn't maintain our intensity after going 14-0 up and Saints turned on the style big time - doesn't look like the ultra-quick play-the-balls are going to be phased out.



Now's not the time to be writing anyone off for the season. Hopefully we'll get a big response from the players next week.[/u

I am not too dissapointed about last night. I expected a defeat and for most of the game we dominated. Its a shame we could not do it for the whole game but they really turned it on once they got sniff.



Postives for me were.



Riley - been said all over this board but he looked good all game.



Higham - posed a real threat but tired later



Carvell - great go forward



Blythe - got through loads of work



Negatives



Monas - did he play?

King - what does he offer?



All in all was not a bad performance.

You also forgot to mention that we were playing against a team that are notorious slow starters and have been beaten quite a few times on the opening day of SL against average opposition, saints will only get better but how much better will we get as that backline apart from Riley looked toothless last night and our half backs were virtually non existent.