3 contenders in this one to rate in order. TKL = Toa Kohe-Love.

matt king any day...no contest

Matt King simply for the semi hat-trick although a lot of bitterness from some fans has clouded their judgement of gleeson. He was top class for us regardless of his off-field behaviour, just check how many tries whoever played outside him scored. TKL could and should have been an amazing player, sadly too many injuries means he can't be regarded as highly as the other 2. Liked a bit of biff though.

As a centre:

Gleeson

King

TKL



For Warrington:

TKL

King

Gleeson



During their career:

King

Gleeson

TKL

Gleeson all day long! Technically the best centre Warrington have had in a long, long time. Then TKL and The King.

King for me all day long!!

Said it before and i will say it again saints had the best years out of Gleeson,i always expected to much from him every time he had ball in hand.

Still not forgot his body language at the press conference when we sighed him if ever he didnt want to be somewhere!!!

Matt King then TKL and lastly Martin Gleeson.

Gleeson could easily have been top of that list but in my opinion he either wasted his time with us or was wasted, depending on your viewpoint.

Matt King.

Makes you realise how three very different players can play the same position.

Tad confused by the difference between 'as a centre' and 'during their career'

For me Matt King as we all know Martin Gleeson is a banker is a tanker

I think its hard to separate them for overall contribution. I would say that Toa at his peak was better than the other two.



If you were rating them out of 10 season by season, then Toa would have been something like

7-6-(out injured)-10-8-9 and in his second spell 6-7



Gleeson would have been something like

9-7-7-7



King would have been

6-9-8



I have always been a Gleeson supporter and like Moe says some Wire fans bitterness towards Gleeson has clouded their judgement. I thought he was on the whole very good for us and deserving of more respect than he gets, but my only criticism about Gleeson, and its still true of him at Wigan now, is that he seems to play within himself a lot of the time. There will be a handful of games every season (and to be fair he has proved himself in internationals where a lot of leading SL players haven't made the step up) where he is world class, and the rest of the time he is good but not world class. This even goes back to when he was at Saints. I thought Gleeson's best seasons were the first half of 2004 before he got banned at Saints, and 2005 for us, he was class every week in those years, before or since that point he has been one for turning it on in patches.



Gleeson did not endear himself to Wire fans much with his surly body language, he never looked interested in playing for Wire even when he played well for us, contrast to King who has come over here and mucked in with the spirit of the club, and made an effort with the fans. But King has also benefited from playing in a strong side, which the other two didn't, Toa played in some quite weak sides. I reckon if you put Toa of 1999-2001 era in King's place in the current Warrington team, he would have been even better than King. King's extra height and power compared to the other two has been a big weapon with Briers and the aerial ball, Gleeson's main strength was his footwork and his quick passing and offloading, but Toa at his best was up with Gleeson for footwork and handling but had a yard or two more pace which made him more dangerous. I find it difficult to rank them for overall contribution/consistency and I am probably tempted towards King, but I remember Toa fondly and at his peak the others couldn't touch him.