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| Without a video ref and multiple camera angles, we'll never know what the right outcomes would have been.
Hicks was a metre away from Hohaia's disallowed try and was adamant he dropped it. We were all sure it was a score.
The two touchies agreed that Hanbury's goal didn't go over, though I was sat right behind the goal and, along with the several hundred others who had the same view, was sure it went over.
TBH the worst decision of the day was to penalise Chris Dean for accidental offside in the lead up to Wilkin's try. He was behind the man (the marker!) who the ball struck and was deemed to be in front. Shocking.
We need video refs at every match, or to get rid of them altogether, imo.
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| The kick went higher than the posts, because on Sky it would otherwise have been possible to freeze frame as the ball went past a post, and see if it was in or out. But it went a way over.
The ref cannot overrule the TJs. If they agree (they did) then he has to award the goal. If they disagree he decides.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The kick went higher than the posts, because on Sky it would otherwise have been possible to freeze frame as the ball went past a post, and see if it was in or out. But it went a way over.
The ref cannot overrule the TJs. If they agree (they did) then he has to award the goal. If they disagree he decides.'"
Thanks for the clarification - I just didn't know the ruling on this point.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The ref cannot overrule the TJs. If they agree (they did) then he has to award the goal. If they disagree he decides.'"
Are you sure? I was at an amateur game last week and both TJ's put their flags up but the ref didn't think it went over so disallowed it.
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| Anybody here complaining about the standard of refereeing thought about taking one of the many Ref's courses the RFL offers and maybe doing something themselves to increase the quality of refs? I have, and it's been a real eye opener.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The kick went higher than the posts, because on Sky it would otherwise have been possible to freeze frame as the ball went past a post, and see if it was in or out. But it went a way over.
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No, it didn't go higher than the sticks. The video is inconclusive though as it was filmed from the North Stand, the only views that will provide proof are from the South and West.
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| Quote oli30045="oli30045"Are you sure? I was at an amateur game last week and both TJ's put their flags up but the ref didn't think it went over so disallowed it.'"
TJs are the sole decision makers with regards to in-touch and awarding goals if officially appointed.
It's possible that at an amateur game they were volunteer TJs in which case the referee's decision is final.
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| Quote oli30045="oli30045"Are you sure? I was at an amateur game last week and both TJ's put their flags up but the ref didn't think it went over so disallowed it.'"
He was wrong then:
[i If there is no disagreement between the Touch Judges their decision shall be accepted.[/i
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The kick went higher than the posts, because on Sky it would otherwise have been possible to freeze frame as the ball went past a post, and see if it was in or out. But it went a way over.
The ref cannot overrule the TJs. If they agree (they did) then he has to award the goal. If they disagree he decides.'"
Must say ur talking out of ur a**e . The ref awards the goal not the tjs weather they stick u their flags or not
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"Must say ur talking out of ur a**e . The ref awards the goal not the tjs weather they stick u their flags or not'"
Look at the post immediately above yours, those are the exact words from The Laws of the Game. Do you contend that whoever wrote them is also talking out of his ar[is[/ie?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"He was wrong then:
[iIf there is no disagreement between the Touch Judges their decision shall be accepted.[/i'"
Fair enough, I think they were volunteers (1 from each team) though like the post from tim2 said, so I'm guessing it was his choice for each goal.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Look at the post immediately above yours, those are the exact words from The Laws of the Game. Do you contend that whoever wrote them is also talking out of his ar[is[/ie?'"
The ref has the final decision end off.
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