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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"St's with no experienced scrum half will be interesting. Leeds look as strong as ever.=red In theory Hull have signed some better players so presuming the coach doesn't stuff it up they should be back in the top 8, no other teams have massively strengthend or signed outstanding players so will be similiar to this year. Salford and CC will again be bottom and not very competitive imo. HKR pack looks weaker at the mo so they may drop a couple.'"
Nail hit on head.
We could sign the entire Australian national side and Agar would still turn them into a disorganized clueless bunch within a month.
I've already said this on a couple of other threads, but FC's league position in 2010 is directly linked to how long Agar is in situ.
The longer he stays, the lower down we will finish. If he somehow lasts the full season we could very well be bottom.
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| Quote BP1="BP1"Nail hit on head.
We could sign the entire Australian national side and Agar would still turn them into a disorganized clueless bunch within a month.
I've already said this on a couple of other threads, but FC's league position in 2010 is directly linked to how long Agar is in situ.
The longer he stays, the lower down we will finish. If he somehow lasts the full season we could very well be bottom.'"
While I dont exactly rate him, that's a bit tight. 
from what ive seen of it, the long and short of it is, great, you've got tonnes of local lads but the average player going out over say the last 3 years or so hasn't been replaced by a player of equal quality imho.
I also worry about your two big overseas players this year, O'Meley to put it bluntly, is a crock of .... and Fitzgibbon may have another couple of years left in him but he's not the player he was. Will be interesting to see how they go
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| Can't see Hull FC improving a great deal. Short term signings looking for a last pay deal. As long as Agar is in charge they'll never challenge for top honours. The fans really do deserve an awful lot more in my opinion
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| Quote BP1="BP1"Nail hit on head.
We could sign the entire Australian national side and Agar would still turn them into a disorganized clueless bunch within a month.
I've already said this on a couple of other threads, but FC's league position in 2010 is directly linked to how long Agar is in situ.
The longer he stays, the lower down we will finish. If he somehow lasts the full season we could very well be bottom.'"
So it's NOT the incompetant , couldn't care less players?
1 man alone is responsible for all the missed tackles, knock ons, bad reads, limp defence, et.etc...
I think Agar may have more RL knowledge in his little finger tip that the whole lot of moaners from the KC!!!
Watching Hull. albeit on the box, it seemed obvious that several players were going through the motions.
IF and it's a big if, Agar had a failing he should have got rid, but also realsie he is trying to keep EVERYONE happy within the limits of what he has available.
By the way this applies to other clubs as well.
Notice that when coaches are changed, the entire playing roster seems to change within months.
I wonder why?
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| Quote Leaguefan="Leaguefan"So it's NOT the incompetant , couldn't care less players?
1 man alone is responsible for all the missed tackles, knock ons, bad reads, limp defence, et.etc...
I think Agar may have more RL knowledge in his little finger tip that the whole lot of moaners from the KC!!!
Watching Hull. albeit on the box, it seemed obvious that several players were going through the motions.
IF and it's a big if, Agar had a failing he should have got rid, but also realsie he is trying to keep EVERYONE happy within the limits of what he has available.
By the way this applies to other clubs as well.
Notice that when coaches are changed, the entire playing roster seems to change within months.
I wonder why?'"
who have all gone now
HTH
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Wire, Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull KR 3-6 in any order.
Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, Hull, Catalans: 7-11 in any order.
Harlequins, Salford, Celtics: 12-14 in any order.
Of course, I'll make more firm predictions when squads have been finalised.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Leeds and Saints top two.
Wire, Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull KR 3-6 in any order.
Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, Hull, Catalans: 7-11 in any order.
Harlequins, Salford, Celtics: 12-14 in any order.
Of course, I'll make more firm predictions when squads have been finalised.'"
Will not make a jot of difference
With one or two exceptions  everyone seems to go for Leeds/Saints.
WOW isn't that open 
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| How can it be an open season when it will be either Leeds or St Helens winning it.
Sure Warrington have spent more money than God and sprinkled pixie dust on the salary cap, but they have bought sh*t so far....so they won't win it!
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| we waite and see a lot teams are to finish there signings the biggest flops will be Hull again signed poor and coach who is nothing short of rubish.
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| Quote Victoria tiger="Victoria tiger"we waite and see a lot teams are to finish there signings the biggest flops will be Hull again signed poor and coach who is nothing short of rubish.'"
Hull seem to shoot themselves in the foot at every opportunity possible.
They moan and whinge ever season about their lengthy injury list, then lo and behold go out and sign more over-the-hill, injury-prone crocks.
I'll be suprised if O'Meley and Long play more than half the fixture list next season and Fitzgibbon, despite having had a great career, is 33 (?) and playing for a Roosters side that has had dreadful results for the last two seasons.
The people in charge there must be morons.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"Warrington
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Wakefield
Harlequins
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Celtic'" I will have 50 pound that Cas finish above Bradford were already stronger than last year meaning we dont need to improve to beat your crap you have had your 5 minutes at the top and it is over no more free tickets for your fans and your is coach is e so lets get it on.
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