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| Super League is in a rut at the moment. The regular season matches simply have no meaning or point to them. The intensity is non existent in most games and I must admit my interest in them is waining terribly. The Challenge Cup is the only thing that matters until September/October and that is because its a knock out competition.
We need to bite the bullet and reduce the number of games, and reorganise the format at the very least to ensure there is some point to the games.
As the Saints chairman has pointed out this season the current playoff system is farcical, bordering on complete stupidity. The 8th placed side have a chance of winning the competition and there is hardly a big scramble for playoff places. None of the smaller clubs care as they know they can't win the playoffs so aren't really bothered about reaching them. The bigger clubs can ease off completely (Leeds have been on the deckchairs since they exited the Challenge Cup) in order to prepare for the playoffs meaning the regular season games are lethargic at best and feature 17 players going through the motions.
I reckon 12 regular season games is the ideal number if we are going to have playoffs, this would mean a defeat would be meaningful and games would therefore be 'bigger' deals. They could extend the CC if need be or the WCC to more teams in order to incentivise a high league position.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Super League is in a rut at the moment. The regular season matches simply have no meaning or point to them. The intensity is non existent in most games and I must admit my interest in them is waining terribly. The Challenge Cup is the only thing that matters until September/October and that is because its a knock out competition.
We need to bite the bullet and reduce the number of games, and reorganise the format at the very least to ensure there is some point to the games.
As the Saints chairman has pointed out this season the current playoff system is farcical, bordering on complete stupidity. The 8th placed side have a chance of winning the competition and there is hardly a big scramble for playoff places. None of the smaller clubs care as they know they can't win the playoffs so aren't really bothered about reaching them. The bigger clubs can ease off completely (Leeds have been on the deckchairs since they exited the Challenge Cup) in order to prepare for the playoffs meaning the regular season games are lethargic at best and feature 17 players going through the motions.
I reckon 12 regular season games is the ideal number if we are going to have playoffs, this would mean a defeat would be meaningful and games would therefore be 'bigger' deals. They could extend the CC if need be or the WCC to more teams in order to incentivise a high league position.'"
dont think we need to scrap them completely, but they should be restricted to the top 5 and each position in the league should have a major benefit in the playoffs. make the playoffs hard to get in, and make the rewards bigger for getting there.
perhaps there should be an RFL bonus pot for players who get into the top 5, increasing for players in teams higher up the league - at least then if clubs dont care, at least hte players might do.
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| How will scraping them make games more interesting? Surely that'll mean there is [iless[/i to play for than there already is?
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| If the Magic weekend disappears, there is absolutely no rational reason to decide the Champions by a play-off system other than to generate a large wad of cash for the RFL.
With the uneven fixture list created by Magic, you can just about make a case for needing a play-off system to decide the top team.
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| Quote Fresh Prince of Chesh-air="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"How will scraping them make games more interesting? Surely that'll mean there is [iless[/i to play for than there already is?'"
We've been deciding the championss via post season play-offs since about 1900 (with a brief interlude in the 1970s (?), 1980s and early '90s, when we had to invent the premiership to take their place). Why change a tried and tested system which works?
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| Should make the play-offs the top four, so that it's an actual achievement to qualify for them. Even with the shoddy seasons for Wigan and Bradford, they might still make it in to the play-offs.
Even better, revert to first past the post and have a post-season Premiership competition.
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| Quote tb="tb"We've been deciding the championss via post season play-offs since about 1900 (with a brief interlude in the 1970s (?), 1980s and early '90s, when we had to invent the premiership to take their place). Why change a tried and tested system which works?'"
So what was broken about the system which had run uninterrupted from 1974 to 1998 whereby the team finishing at the top of the table at season's end were champions, hmm? That seemed to be working ok.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Super League is in a rut at the moment. The regular season matches simply have no meaning or point to them. The intensity is non existent in most games and I must admit my interest in them is waining terribly. The Challenge Cup is the only thing that matters until September/October and that is because its a knock out competition.
We need to bite the bullet and reduce the number of games, and reorganise the format at the very least to ensure there is some point to the games.
As the Saints chairman has pointed out this season the current playoff system is farcical, bordering on complete stupidity. The 8th placed side have a chance of winning the competition and there is hardly a big scramble for playoff places. None of the smaller clubs care as they know they can't win the playoffs so aren't really bothered about reaching them. The bigger clubs can ease off completely (Leeds have been on the deckchairs since they exited the Challenge Cup) in order to prepare for the playoffs meaning the regular season games are lethargic at best and feature 17 players going through the motions.
I reckon 12 regular season games is the ideal number if we are going to have playoffs, this would mean a defeat would be meaningful and games would therefore be 'bigger' deals. They could extend the CC if need be or the WCC to more teams in order to incentivise a high league position.'"
By this, do you mean only six home games in a season? This may cause a slight hiccup with the club’s revenue streams.
As for a team finishing in 8th winning the competition, well, if they do, they deserve it.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"So what was broken about the system which had run uninterrupted from 1974 to 1998 whereby the team finishing at the top of the table at season's end were champions, hmm? That seemed to be working ok.'"
How many times did Cas win the title between 74 and 98? Hey? Clearly the system wasn't working.
[size=17(Ok we didn't win the title between 26 and 74 , or 98 to now, either. But we did reach a final once)[/size
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"So what was broken about the system which had run uninterrupted from 1974 to 1998 whereby the team finishing at the top of the table at season's end were champions, hmm? That seemed to be working ok.'"
Seems to be popular as union and the Scottish Premier League have adopted similar systems.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"So what was broken about the system which had run uninterrupted from 1974 to 1998 whereby the team finishing at the top of the table at season's end were champions, hmm? That seemed to be working ok.'"
are you also taking into accounts the decline in attendances ?
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| Quote tb="tb"How many times did Cas win the title between 74 and 98? Hey? Clearly the system wasn't working.'"
As a Leeds fan, I should be in agreement with that I suppose... 
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