Don't like the list of 'honours'. For a start, the banner is the banner of RAb - which hasn't won anything - not the Bulls - which haven't won anything for a while, leaving us open to 'living in the past' trolling.



Also - have we given up on the Burgii, seeing as I believe we are sponsoring them again, Russell Crowe permitting?

Bless

Considering Mat's earlier post, congratulations on confirming your troll status. We all knew it anyway, but it's nice to have it confirmed for definite.

I put them on as a few people asked for them and I don't want to put more than one image on as I don't want the banner over crowding. if you look at any other professional banner they don't have a mish mash of different images they have one... maybe two at a stretch.

Well, I started work on a minimalist design. Here it is so far:

I like it except for the lettering of 'redamberandblack.net'

That's a pretty good starting point IMO

I vote 'Vark so far.



Space for some faces or whatever under the swirl if thought necessary.

What don't you like about it? It can be done in any one of an infinite variety of ways, and I like this one as it has a sort of steely feel to it, and I like the 3D effect of the words lifting off the page. But I'm happy to have a go at assorted alternative suggestions.



The white space i think should be filled with something, but I'm not yet sure what.

I think I'd go the other way and remove the 3D effects tbh, on the text and the border itself. And I'd also say that I don't really think the white space needs filling.

I prefer the 3d effects.

think its good but I would leave the 3D off