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| Quote af="af"icon_lol.gif
BTW, I'd fully support a 'Keighley Sporting Village' around Lawkholme Lane. '"
Well with the plods right next door it shouldn't cost much for the policing of the thousands who would be attending... 
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BTW, I'd fully support a 'Keighley Sporting Village' around Lawkholme Lane. But AFAIK it hasn't be proposed. '"
Isn`t that a bit near the edge of the district? Jeez, it would take me an age to get there.............no, I`m not paying my rates for that 
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| Quote aj cougar="aj cougar"For the record, the same could be applied to Keighley Leisure Centre and Pool, and Shipley pool ( I can't say anything about the other facilities in the area, as I'm not familiar with them). '"
Both which have relatively recently had large wads of cash spent on them IIRC.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Both which have relatively recently had large wads of cash spent on them IIRC.'"
Shipley pool definately had a refit not too long back.
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| Quote debaser="debaser"Shipley pool definately had a refit not too long back.'"
I've used both Keighley & Shipley heavily while my daughter was growing up, both excellent facilites. I have no problem with my tax being spent on them, neither do I on OSV even though it's unlikely I will ever use it, obviously providing it is done efficiently etc.
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BTW, I'd fully support a 'Keighley Sporting Village' around Lawkholme Lane. '"
You'd have to demolish a lot of housing to do that.
Do you mean the land between Royd Ings and Hard Ings? 
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| Quote aj cougar="aj cougar"You'd have to demolish a lot of housing to do that.
Do you mean the land between Royd Ings and Hard Ings?
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I don't know, it's all so far away...
I mean [url=http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=royd+ings+keighley&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.374478,39.550781&ie=UTF8&ll=53.874038,-1.901729&spn=0.006022,0.019312&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addrthis bit[/url. Maybe it would have to be in two pods, one on each side of the road...
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| Quote af="af"I don't know, it's all so far away...
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| Quote AndreaB="AndreaB"This has been driven by the council from the start. The Bulls are one interested party of many.
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Afternoon Andrea, the Bulls kicked the OSV idea off and Mr Hood has done a good job of it. It certainly was NOT a council initiated idea.
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The Richard Dunn loses money because the facilities are so restricted.
The new facilities will serve thousands of people from across the district. It will form part of the sports facilities offered by Bradford College and local (by that I mean district wide) facilities for sports groups.
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I'm bemused by the idea of facilities being restricted at Richard Dunn's. Antiquated yes but restricted ? Outdoor floodlit footy pitches, indoor footy pitches, large swimming pool, gym, squash, badminton - what other sports will the new OSV Sports Centre offer if the existing one is restricted by comparison ?
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At Odsal we have the space, the motorway access and the interest. The sports centre could be replaced and the valuable land used to help pay for it. Could Keighley offer all that?'"
The motorway used for all those residents of Bradford to access the OSV ? Hmm I'd venture that the residents of Bierley would come along Rooley Lane rather than through the Euroway and up to the roundabout but hey 
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"The lump sum had several components. IIRC it went something broadly like this (don't hold me to the details):'"
Afternoon Adey
Off the top of my head ...
1. £4.6m pay out of the lease based on the annual figure at the time multiplied by years left on the lease. It could be argued that the Council saved money by avoiding any inflationary increases over the period of the original lease and avoided and health & safety obligations. To balance that they lost the bar / food takings.
Seems to me that everybody knew the Bulls couldn't afford the ground when they took the money and therefore is rather churlish to then blame the Council for the woes encountered since.
2. £550,000 immediate health & safety remedial work.
Total pay out : £5.15m
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But I guess this just risks raking up the 2002 argument all over again
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Da*n it, did I do just that ?
For the record, I have never had a problem with RD's being rebuilt, I do have a problem in principle with Council Tax payers cash paying for Bulls facilities and a bigger gripe with the fact that some people seem to think this is a right for their privately owned club. Nothing to do with City / Bulls rivalry, I said exactly the same when City were in administration. I'd rather have seen City in the Conference than take the Council's cash.
Nearly happened anyway 
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Of course not!
AJ seems to be saying that the money going towards the OSV from the Council should be shared equally across all facilities across the entire district rather than a big chunk spent in one place because it's too hard to travel from Keighley to Odsal.
This seems to be regardless of need, and regardless of the fact that better facilities could be provided if resources were pooled.
I get the feeling that some folk wouldn't be making any noise at all if there was no stadium as part of the OSV. AJ has already said the scheme is a Trojan Horse for the Bulls. It seems a bit odd that if that were the case why so many organisations would be signing up.
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Come on Bullseye ( oh and Good Afternoon  ).... think AJ's been pretty clear all along. Use the private cash that's been lined up for additional local facilities for the University, College etc and use the Council cash for the new Sports Centre and associated facilities. I'm curious as to where the "new" stadium for the Bradford Bulls fits into this or what rent the Council propose to charge the Bulls for using this facility?
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The benefits of a new stadium and the OSV being built would filter down to council tax payers whether they use it or not.
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You have me stumped with that one !
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| Quote BM="BM"......I'd rather have seen City in the Conference than take the Council's cash.
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How weird. I agree with Adey that the deal between the Bulls and the Council can't be fairly described as the Bulls getting some sort of windfall for nowt from 't Council, but on what do you base that strange view?
In my opinion, the Council wastes / spends many millions of pounds on all sorts of things of varied, dubious or no merit so far as I am concerned, and mostly things which are no use or benefit to me, so why on earth should I have some strange pangs in the unlikely event that a bit of the Council's money came my way, either directly, or indirectly such as to the Bulls, or City, or some other organisation that does mean something to me?
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