Ha ha true. There were a few where they just walked through us

The mistakes in the 1st half were really costly and you just cannot afford to hand a very good Wigan side the possession in your own half. I thought we struggled to match Wigan physically at times and some of our kicking was dreadful. The kicks out on the full were real killers and by half time we hadn't really given ourselves a chance to compete.



Credit for the determination on show in the 2nd half and we certainly defended better and there were a few spells of decent rugby on show from us. We never really looked quick enough to trouble the solid Wigan defence though. Credit to Wigam they're a class team and fully deserved the points today so we can have no complaints.



Regarding Roby, he is crap and I didn't need to watch his performance again today to realise that. The amount of high shots that went unpunished and his inability to spot a forward pass are frustrating to say the least. The only positive is the chances of getting a result today were always going to be slim so hopefully we won't see him again for a couple of months now.

Roby - Sh*t performance, absolutely appalled at his refereeing today might not have affected the result but the score may not have been as bad (maybe a try or two less) and how the hell did he give 4 penalties and send Whitehead to the bin?!?! The penalties he gave were non-existent.



Right now that is out of the way I can focus on the Bulls. Before the game I thought the sweeping moves that Wigan do (left to right or vise versa which always end up with Charnley/Richards scoring) were going to kill us but in fact today it was simple drop offs as our inside defence was crap. Langley was one of the worst for being the inside defender as he never pushed once on the inside.



Mistakes killed us today (this was the second thing that killed us after the non-existent inside defence). First of all Platt knocking on when he had the line at his mercy was a killer as that would have put us either 6-4 or 6-6 to give us confidence. Also Gale's pass to Sammut was not in the second half and should not have been given, gifted Wigan the ball and about 2-3 sets too. Whitehead keeping hold of the ball is killing the attack down the left now as he also searchs for the step inside instead of a pass to Purtell to create a two on one.....I think it's time for young Elliott to take a game or two out. Also Lulia passing it into touch was shocking, should have kept hold as it was back to one. Kearney had a mare as did Sammut (except his off the cuff play). Kicking game was cr@p, should have bombed Tomkins all day long as he is terrible under the high ball (see 2011 4 Nations Final) and the 1st and only time we bombed him we got the ball back because Kearney pressured him.



Donaldson is a waste of space, I have said that for years, get rid and play Addy at Loose Forward from the off as James does nothing that Langley couldn't give us. Also Kear was Man of the Match today for me, excellent defence, excellent under the kick and great at trying to make yards.



Right now I know a few will say ah it's only 36-6 and we'll still do well etc but that's not the point if we want to be top 4-8 we have to earn it and in that first half we didn't. Credit where it is due we didn't stop fighting, grabbed a nifty try and kept them out for over 30 mins.



You just have to look at the two sides on paper to see the difference, they were filled with class and we aren't anymore. Have a lot of good decent players but no real class other than Kearney and Sammut and Wigan did well to shut them two down. I have to say we kept Tomkins quiet for long periods but everything Wigan do goes through Matty Smith and we let him and Farrell run the show :/



Week off next week (sort of) rest a few players and come back and have a crack at Warrington who I think tbh we have more chance of beating.

I stopped reading when I read that, coming back from 2 serious knee injuries is an achievement and is very good in defence.

Coming back from 2 serious knee injuries fair enough but he's still a waste of space. Addy and Bateman both offer more at Loose Forward, hell even Langley offers more there and he's a good defender. Given the choice I'd sooner have Addy or Bateman there than Donno.

Totally agree with you Donaldson may not be as creative with ball in hand but at least he knows how to tackle. When he was subbed after 20 mins he was our best man IMHO He was driving the ball in and tackling his heart out. Addy falls off too many tackles and Chev seems to be able to tackle from the rear or the side but is too easily stepped round head on. Why oh why wasn`t Gale on from the start? Disco is too slow now (surely it`s his last season) young Obrien is a better bet. But Wigan were by far the best team I`ve seen this year They didn`t need the clown Roby`s help. But at least we kept goin I thought it was going to be 60 or 70 points stuffing at one point.

In regards to Donaldson, I don't have any complaints, he tackles his heart out, gives it all every time he plays.

Having Addy at LF would bring advantages (attacking kicks, etc), but some big disadvantages too (not exactly the best tackler).



With the game today, I couldn't complain at the effort from the players (which is all I ever want to see), Wigan deserved to win, think the scoreline slightly flattered them, 15-20 points as opposed to 30 may well of been fairer.

Not going to talk about Roby.

Wigan were a class above no two ways about that but at least 3 of their tries could have been stopped by the inside defender.

I must admit I agree regarding Diskin, I hope Cummins gives O'Brien his chance next year. With another 50% cut in tv money the playing budget will be tight and Diskins wage would be better spent on other areas of the squad.



Also what has happened to the form of Lulia in 2013? He hasn't played particularly badly but he hasn't found the form from last year yet. Nowhere near as dangerous with the ball in hand. He certainly isn't playing like somebody who is desperate for a new deal, or is it just me?

Donaldson was superb in defence. He was one of our best players until we went off, should have been Walker who was subbed.



Don't get how Langley offers more, works hard but wasn't dominant enough in the tackle, plus he needs to stop touching the ball twice every set, when we were on their line he took the ball in twice and stopped all our momentum.

Donno is a tackling machine, he isn't creative, but you look at his tackle counts, one of best in squad!

We were poor today, and Wigan were good, refereeing is not easy unless you are called Tim Roby then you can make it up as you go along