WTF why is O'Loughan playing at centre?, so we play kids to build to the future and then someone who has never played centre (to my knowledge) and surely wont play again esp for england.



and with that said its the same as Lee Smith to join up with the team, we wont even be in rugby league at christmas and hes in the team what a load of $*!&



rant over

I'm feeling your pain. It's embarassing. We're obviously behind the big 2 but we don't half make an embarassing mess out of the international scene.



On Sky Sports 2 you've got a packed house watching a Union Champions League game. That sport is so well run in comparison to League its untrue.

here here, they have made some big steps in union over the last 10 years at the club level and international game has always made ours look sunday league, the only credit i would give the kick and clap lot ... but we really need to take page out of their book

Pube head's defence will be great in the second row against the Aussies and Kiwis.

totally agree . Smith shouldnt be in the squad (he's made a choice to leave the game and now he's finished with Leeds he should be off to Union) and O'Loughlin should never be playing centre at International Level. Personally I'd have in the second row.

This wasn't international level, this was akin to Northern Rail Cup stuff. I got bored after 20 minutes and watched the Union.



Plus, if Paul Sykes is an international full back, there is hope for me!

I'm half watching it. tbh it's just Mickey Mouse stuff. From the very begining with the botched up national anthems it's looked poor.



And yeah Paul Sykes is a joke

O'loughlin has had a great game at centre but he will play SR or Loose in the 4 nations.



Sam Tomkins = outstanding 3 tries and 3 assists.



Paul Sykes has had one of the worst international performances I have ever seen.

on the plus said the bookies should be offering some better odds now for the four nations



aussies and kewis must be rubbing their hands together

Sykes is just not good enough - I'm not even sure he's good enough for the Dulls.



The Troll's played very well but this 'game' is just a training match

That was so dull I almost watched X Factor.

You can't call Tomkins outstanding for that performance. You could pick any half back from a SL academy and put them in against that lot and they'd score plenty.



NL2 stuff that tonight, England were dreadful, totally lacking in structure and direction, the only times they were dangerous was when balls hit the floor and Wales didn't react.