MoS? Mozza by plenty.

Assuming you mean the SL Play-Offs here, right?



In which case, not really.



Unless in your Wigan arrogance you consider a 50/50 record as terrible?



Sequence from a Leeds perspective: =#FF0000L L L L W W W W

Yes, that's 4 losses on the trot in play-offs. That's pretty bad for the form book.



Where's the "Wigan arrogance"? I thought everybody was fed up of Wigan "living in the past"?

The Wigan arrogance is in thinking a 50% win ratio V Leeds in the SL Play-Offs is a 'terrible' record.

4 straight losses in play-offs is a terrible record. We have that, you don't.



No arrogance. Just facts.



I can't believe you're saying I'm arrogant when I say Leeds have the better recent record!

In the SL Era the only area Leeds have the upper hand over Wigan in head to head confrontations is in the Challenge Cup and that is probably only because all four meetings have been at Headingley.



SL Era Regular Rounds - 57% to Wigan



SL Era Play-Offs/Premiership - 56% to Wigan



You still think Wigan have a terrible record V Leeds?



If you want to dismiss the full-time Era has a whole and stick with recent form, as you've already pointed out Wigan have recorded two comfortable wins this season while suffering two agonisingly close defeats.



You still think Wigan have a terrible record V Leeds?

In the play-offs, yes.



Our last play off win against you was in 2003. That year was also very close in the league, 2 24-all draws, 1 win to you by 10 points and 1 to us (the aforementione play-off win, by 1 point).



The teams were very different back then.



Our secret weapon then was the wonderful Mike Gregory as coach. Today we have another Mike in charge, but still, I maintain my point; me saying next week is going to be a hard-fought and possibly very close match is hardly me being arrogant or looking through "Wigan coloured glasses".



I hope we win, I'm sure you hope you win. Good luck, both teams are going to need it.

Oh, and just to make a final point, I did say "in ELIMINATION Rugby" originally.

Amen. Just playing around.

Which were the 4 wins? I remember 2004, 2007 & 2008. We lost 1st round to Wire in 2006, And won at St Helens in 2005. Last year we beat Hull KR and Catalans.

Just the clarify the =#FF0000L L L L W W W W sequence is Leeds V Wigan in the Play-Offs.



The Wigan wins: 1998, 1998, 2002, 2003



The Leeds wins: 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010



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Wigan are the most experienced SL Play-Off team (held jointly with St Helens)



Pl 31, W 19, D 0, L 12, Pts For 705, Pts Agst 646, Avg Scr (23-21) 61%



W =#0000BFW =#FF0000L L W =#800000L W =#FF0000L W =#800000L W W =#FF0000L W W W =#FF0000L W W =#FF0000L W W =#FF0000L W W =#FF0000L W W =#FF0000L L W



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Leeds come next on the list



Pl 29, W 15, D 0, L 14, Pts For 604, Pts Agst 573, Avg Scr (21-20) 52%



W =#FF0000L W=#800000 L =#FF0000L L W =#FF0000L L W =#FF0000L L L L W =#0000BFW W =#800000L =#FF0000L L W =#0000BFW =#FF0000L W =#0000BFW W W =#0000BFW W







Key:

W - Play-Off Win

=#0000BFW - Grand Final Win

=#FF0000L - Play-Off Loss

=#800000L - Grand Final Loss

Not forgotten the weekend before last already?