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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Sorry but what bull
The club have every responsibility, its THEIR fan who did it, their fan who brought shame to THEIR club'"
Then please explain to me how Hull as a club have any control over any person who attends, what (drunken) state those people are in. Where those people stand, how they act, the match stewarding or the match policing.
What's more how do you expect Hull to take action over the said event??? Did a Leeds steward or police officer apprehend or take the 's name???
How exactly are Hull RLFC responsible???
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| Quote airliebird9="airliebird9"Then please explain to me how Hull as a club have any control over any person who attends, what (drunken) state those people are in. Where those people stand, how they act, the match stewarding or the match policing.
What's more how do you expect Hull to take action over the said event??? Did a Leeds steward or police officer apprehend or take the nice person's name???
How exactly are Hull RLFC responsible???'"
This is a fan of Hull FC, This person has attacked an opposition fan, yet according to you this is Leeds fault
Your club should be banning these individuals, if Salford can do it to their fans why cant Hull FC?
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Sorry but what bull
The club have every responsibility, its THEIR fan who did it, their fan who brought shame to THEIR club'"
I think you'll find thats exactly what he said
And if you're suggesting that Hull are responsible for the behaviour of their own fans when they play an away game then you're wrong, the behaviour of supporters within a ground is the responsibility of the home club and in that respect the RFL let themselves off rather lightly after the McAlpine semi final incident, after all, its was the RFL that was responsible for picking the venue and organising the game and the security (what security ???), luckily Hull accepted their scapegoat status probably after acknowledging that they hadn't done too much in the past to prevent the ethos of abusing opposition supporters at The Boulevard.
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"This is a fan of Hull FC, This person has attacked an opposition fan, yet according to you this is Leeds fault
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Strictly speaking it is Leeds' fault.
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| Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"I think you'll find thats exactly what he said
And if you're suggesting that Hull are responsible for the behaviour of their own fans when they play an away game then you're wrong, the behaviour of supporters within a ground is the responsibility of the home club and in that respect the RFL let themselves off rather lightly after the McAlpine semi final incident, after all, its was the RFL that was responsible for picking the venue and organising the game and the security (what security ???), luckily Hull accepted their scapegoat status probably after acknowledging that they hadn't done too much in the past to prevent the ethos of abusing opposition supporters at The Boulevard.'"
Quick point, as I mentioned before Salford banning two fans after incidents after an away game, why can't Hull do that?
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Quick point, as I mentioned before Salford banning two fans after incidents after an away game, why can't Hull do that?'"
Hull did after the McAlpine incident and as far as I can recall they also did after the FC/KR derby "Let me shoe him Barry" incident of a couple of seasons ago.
If anyone identified the culprit who broke the supporters jaw at Headingley and it resulted in a conviction then I'd expect that FC would remove that persons attendance priviledges too (assuming they are a pass holder - they call them season passes over yonder don't they ?)
Its a bit hard to do anything when you have no responsibility for security or cctv in or out of an away ground though 
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Quick point, as I mentioned before Salford banning two fans after incidents after an away game, why can't Hull do that?'"
If they were identified then Hull would act I'm sure 
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| I sat near the 'fans' that was giving it loads to all your supporters, to be honest they was as bad as each other...To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end. Theres been no trouble reported outside the ground it all stems from inside... Im sure when we or any other team comes to your ground I know full well we don't get waves or thumbs up all game. So to them moaners, move seats, and to those blinkered fans who see no wrong from your supporters, my friend works at the K.C stadium and he and a fellow worker had to fix 9 seats at the top of the north stand in time for the City Villa game and had to do minor repair to the aluminium sign that alot of away supporters bang on but like we all say, we all get them kind of 'fans'. Get over it!
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| Quote garroway="garroway"To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end. '"
It basically comes down to the turnstiles that the Hull club usher the away fans in through. When you walk into the ground, they're the first seats you come to, and naturally most people will settle on the first place they see rather than walk down the other end of the stand. You could call that laziness but to be honest it's human nature, especially for latecomers. Simple as it sounds, part of the problem would be eased if you changed the turnstile entry to the other end of the stand. (The other turnstiles were actually open on Saturday but the turnstiles on the tickets were at the East End of the stand.)
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| Quote GCM1980="GCM1980"
If there were Leeds fans who responded I can understand why but don't necessarily condone it. On a side note, I hope whoever threw his beer at Lauaki does get banned. We don't need that kind of behaviour in our game.'"
Whilst I agree with every bit of what you say regarding the mindless idiots being banned, and that any reaction is not condonable, I have to disagree with what you say above. Don't even try to take the moral high ground when the fact is the first two missiles were thrown by your fans, the first towards The Hull Players and the second from The North Stand into Chav corner.
As for some of the other posters on here, wind your necks in, the majority of ALL RL clubs are decent people, yet you like to tar us Hull fans with the same brush as the minority.
If you don't like coming to Hull, then don't bother, however sort out your own trouble causers. There were no real incidents until the bottle was thrown into The East Stand by them.
Rant over - good luck for the rest of the season and in the cup!
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| Quote garroway="garroway"I sat near the 'fans' that was giving it loads to all your supporters, to be honest they was as bad as each other...To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end.'"
If a dog was to sh[size=100i[/sizet on your kitchen floor would you clean it up or simply walk round it and pretend it wasn't there?
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| Quote Dibs XIII="Dibs XIII"Whilst I agree with every bit of what you say regarding the mindless idiots being banned, and that any reaction is not condonable, I have to disagree with what you say above. Don't even try to take the moral high ground when the fact is the first two missiles were thrown by your fans, the first towards The Hull Players and the second from The North Stand into Chav corner.
As for some of the other posters on here, wind your necks in, the majority of ALL RL clubs are decent people, yet you like to tar us Hull fans with the same brush as the minority.
If you don't like coming to Hull, then don't bother, however sort out your own trouble causers. There were no real incidents until the bottle was thrown into The East Stand by them.
Rant over - good luck for the rest of the season and in the cup!'"
So you agree with me but accuse me of taking the moral high ground? Don't get so defensive about it. I think most people agree that it's a minority at both clubs and nobody wants them around. They're just not that hard to spot at the KC are they?
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| Quote Dibs XIII="Dibs XIII"Whilst I agree with every bit of what you say regarding the mindless idiots being banned, and that any reaction is not condonable, I have to disagree with what you say above. Don't even try to take the moral high ground when the fact is the first two missiles were thrown by your fans, the first towards The Hull Players and the second from The North Stand into Chav corner.
As for some of the other posters on here, wind your necks in, the majority of ALL RL clubs are decent people, yet you like to tar us Hull fans with the same brush as the minority.
If you don't like coming to Hull, then don't bother, however sort out your own trouble causers. There were no real incidents until the bottle was thrown into The East Stand by them.
Rant over - good luck for the rest of the season and in the cup!'"
You see, your post is reasonable in places but then you make yourself into exactly one of the people you are are telling to 'wind their kneck in' by saying, yeh right both side have idiots (true), but you started it!
Grow up, read the more sensible posts on here, like mine, how can you say the first bottle was thrown by the Leeds fans for certain? I am not saying it is not true and your comment about a bottle or pint of larger being thrown on to the pitch prior to the trouble in the corner is clearly true, but that person was quite far away from the idiots in the corner of the East Stand.
My original post talks purely about the fact that the club have allowed a small group of idiots to sit in this corner and they are clearly sat there for a reason correct? And it is not to watch the Rugby!
All clubs have problems and idiots and I have already said in a PM to one of your fans that I don't believe for one second that, in crowd percentage terms, Hull FC does not have any more or less idiots than any other SL clubs! BUT they are currently allowing their idiots to gather together in one part of the ground with the clear intention of getting warped self gratification by winding up opposition fans and causing trouble.
That is the problem here and at the moment Hull FC is the only club in SL that currently has that problem and they should sort it out!
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| Quote leicester_rhino="leicester_rhino"Sound pretty similar to what happened at Hull (not that I saw it), that when a physical barrier will stop any sort of comeback, there'll always be some prats who give it the hard man act.
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Spot on.
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