Some fair points loiner re-Some expecting to win every game and i'd guess most if not all of those started following us in 04 or at the start of 07.

However there's nowt wrong imo from expecting to compete every week and there's nowt wrong in questioning the Coaches and Players when they churn out the dross like against Wigan ,St's and the 1st 30 minutes like last night.

I thought we did ok after the 1st 30 minutes but the start was disgraceful for that team who are capable and should be showing much better win lose or draw.

This isn't really aimed at anyone with anything cogent to say. But as I type this there is a thread describing Sinfield as a defensive weak link and Peacock as a spent force, a thread advocating the entire youth team be drafted in, a McD out thread, a waste of money thread and the Burrow in thread.

Need I say more?

No, you really don't.



Amusing as your gormless prattle is on a wet Saturday morning, this season so far has been a great disappointment, so if it's all the same to you, in best Danny tradition.....Jog On

Bless. As coherent as usual Billy. Rough night? I liked the gormless. Made you sound almost convincing.

But that's the same for wigan fans, for saints, for the gans of any big club. If they aren't competing, there is drive to make sure they are.



You can't just accept mediocrity, that's ridiculous.

The only thing that's not ok is when Leeds (or insert the name of any other club) are not as good as they can be. There will always be a turnover of who is the best at any given time, that's the nature of sport, but you should always be striving to be the best you can be.



At the moment, for a number of reasons, Leeds are not the best they can be, therefore no one associated with the club should be satisfied with where we are.

Yes and it began last season. Winning the GF from 5th merely papered over the cracks of what was an average 2011 season in the weekly rounds by Leeds' standards.

So we have declined? Or we haven't? What you originally said is we haven't worsened. Well, certainly at this point in time, we have. We're not the team we were 3/4 years ago.

Leeds may not be the team they were 3/4 years ago but they are still a million miles off being a bad side in decline. Wigan, Warrington, Catalans, Hull et al have improved vastly over the last 2 seasons and they are now reaping the fruits of their labour with their league positions. If you take a look at the table and consider your next 3 fixtures are Wakefield (H), Cas (H) and London (A), (3 winnable games in the eyes of most). 3 wins would see you right back up in the top third of the table.

I place an opinion on a forum and then you attack me personally....not my comment, and you think you're grown up?



Have a word with yourself mate!!!

That's cleared that little puzzle then

For me LOINERtillidie (primarily a dewsbury fan) is miles away from what most Leeds fans feel about the current situation.



Not accepting that other teams can be better is complete rubbish, this set of players have never won the CC and since 2004 saints, Bradford and Wigan have all won the GF.



The problem for me is knowing that this group can perform much much better than they are, we may be in decline but we are the current champions and beat manly only a few months ago, not being in the play offs at this stage off the season and getting beat at home by 50 would suggest that something is holding us back from performing to our potential.