Water boy or carrying the kicking tee

I agree with the OP but i think injuries will keep players in the 17 that don't deserve it after tonight which is a shame but a real test of the 17 selected and the coach.

The pi$$ poor passing and tackling of established players is a joke and they need dropping imo now.

I honestly would pick the likes of Singleton ,Ambler ,Wilson and co now and give Hauraki ,Senior ,Burrow ,Kirke and Ablett time in the stands to think about their efforts or lack of.

I still think this squad can have an impact but a change in attitude ,application and coaching needs to be addressed.

At the game today and thought he was outstanding. Dont know if its the shirt colour that does it but he is one big unit!

No he appears to have bulked up alot from last year, and was one of the positives for us today.

A fit reasonably squad to choose from makes us a different proposition.



I remember when I first started watching Leeds the coach at the time was Robin Dewhurst, the 83/84 season Leeds had a poor start and he was replaced by Mo Bamford. The rest is history, Leeds equalled their best unbeaten run (18 games) won the JP Trophy and reached the CC semi. They printed an interview with Dewhurst he gave after he left, he said "I'd tell the players what to do and they'd go out and not do it". Now is that the players or is that the coach?

It's both, the players and the coach have to both believe in the same philosophy or it doesn't work. If they don't then one has to leave, and due to cost it's usually the coach...

That's the ideal situation definately.



I'm sure I remember us changeing the whole team every year back in those days though. Ah, the good times. Mind you we also used to change the coach as well.

Oh we did change the whole team back then, we didn't even wait until the end of the season to do it sometimes. There is a major difference now in that we are in an age of full time pro's and contracts so it's tough to change the whole team (although we may need to change some faces).



Ultimately I think that we will change the coach at the end of the season, but we also need 4 or 5 new faces too or the new guy will also be left with an ageing squad all signed to 2 or 3 year deals, and we will continue in the same vein.

Agree with all of this.



We simply can't keep picking Senior as the first choice left centre. Too slow nowadays, and it's about time to say thanks for a great career mate....



Watkins is a winger at the mo, and a good one, but in IMHO is not ready to claim the centre position either.



The sooner we get Delaney back the better.

The problem is even Delaney himself sees SR his position now.



The fact we are apparently light in the threequarters MUST be the only reason Senior continues to be selected. He [ishould[/i have retired last season.



Has been said before by myself and others....we really should have used this season to 'blood' some youngsters into the team to kick on for 2012. Burrow looks a spent force too I'm afraid.



Maybe we should try Hall in the right centre role with Watkins in that left centre position. Admittedly with Hardaker and BJB both injured we then become devoid of "wingers"...but what about giving Jamel Chisholm an opportunity ?

Whats the name of the young centre being praised in the YEP the other week. WILSON? to be fair, from witnessing Senior most of this season, wouldnt mind giving Cody a chance,

If it was down to you our entire backline would be 15-year-olds from the Athletics club. We need Delaney's defence at centre at the moment.