Tomkins (S) is an annoying little shizer but without doubt has a bucket load of talent and has one of the best sidesteps I think I’ve seen.



Defensively he’s weak and needs to improve that side of his game greatly.



A full back he aint though, the kid’s a stand-off through and through.





Still has a punchable face.

Tomkins is certainly a talent but he has the attitude that could seriously overwhelm that. He wouldn't be the first player to waste their career if he lets his ego overwhelm his ability and, lets face it, the Tomkins breed clearly isn't the brightest on that side of the Pennines.



He has to work on his defence no matter which position he is playing in. Teams will soon start "spotting" him if he doesn't develop a sound technique - something that Rob Burrow did very quickly.

Google maps is such a wonderful innovation don't you think!

So is living in Kelsall. Umm....

tomkins wont be the full back against the aussies if widdup is fit



all the top teams have players that can produce moments of magic like tomkins can for wigan but deacon has been the guy pulling all their strings this season without getting the plaudits

if deacon is fit for the next game our chances are a lot less than if he's missing

I actually wouldnt disagree with anything you just wrote there.

Sam has done a fine job at FB for us in the absence of Phelps and Amos.

Dont see him playing in that position next season though.

'Specially if Tommy L moves to hooker.

Tomkins isn't big enough to play Full-back. He as shown more than once he will get trampled by the bigger players near the line. Outstanding talent, but just not big or strong enough to play internationally at full back anyway.

How big is Brent Webb?

ok, I have worded that wrong. Brent Webb has more bulk than Tomkins. IMO, Tomkins is too small physically to play full back. Gets brushed off too easily near the line.

He's not alone in that regard as it's a fate suffered by almost every other full back in SL also (including the three available to Leeds) with the only possible exception to the rule being .... dear lord no .... Wellens.



Damn Mathers' out of character Wembley performance.

I think it's more a case of technique and ability in that position mate rather than size!

I'm not so sure tbh. I can't recall ever seeing Webb bounce of a player on the line like Tomkins did against donald, or against Eastwood. I don't think he has enough bulk at the moment, which also means he is pretty light, so will always lose the collision in situations like that.