I have only ever moved once during a game because of foul and abusive language, and that was at a Hull vs Cas match. I was stood with the Hull fans and the abuse was not directed at me (but at the Cas fans the Cas players and the ref), but I simply couldn't listen to it. It was horrendous and relentless from a group of 20-30 "fans". It was NOT what most people go to games to listen to.



Frankly, I don't think anyone (especially with children) should have to suffer relentless personal abuse under any circumstances.



Hull need to deal with this specific problem. Banning 10-20 idiots (and the threat of banning for others) may improve attendences significantly.

How do you know what had happened though? Being subject to or even hearing prolonged abuse is pretty upsetting.



I cried for a long time when I was caught up in the hideousness at the football

It is this systemic blind indifference to the obvious that has lead me to believe that a BOYCOTT of that particular stadium is the only course of action that will have some effect.



The only conclusion I can come to from your post and others of a similar apologistic nature on here is that we must wait until someone is seriously injured or we see another "goal post" episode beofre any action is taken.

Oh give over. You must live in cotton wool.

Yep, I don't like have "You are the scum of Rugby League" sung at grounds either and the other anti-Hull chants. Didn't stop a large section of the Leeds fans singing it on Saturday though.



I don't however think Leeds have a problem to deal with.



You can't censor people, other than to stop racism and the like. You will also get close to the bone comments, sungs etc at sports grounds and unfortunetly its a parents judgement if they mind their child been exposed to that.

Hardly

You see its that the sort of ignorance that makes this an important issue because some day if this isnt adressed we face a problem that will damage the game as a whole perhaps permanently .



I am no hard man but I played the game for a while and have coached at junior and amateur level... I love the game for me its simply the best





Oh

and I also came within a hairs breadth of being killed whilst watching at a game ( not involving HULL I hasten to add) and the culprits were apprehended charged and convicted due to the actions of the clubs and the stadium involved and some fellow supporters ( all unknown to me).



I just happen to think that the KC stadium and the Hull club prefer to sweep these matters under the carpet.

So in your opinion, is there a problem or not? You start your post saying there isn't, (which there is btw), then go on to discuss posibilities for solving the 'serious problem.'

Central Park 1994. I saw it.

Amen.



I don't think people realise how far the sport, and clubs like Hull FC have come since the 80's. While its not time to stop been pro-active, it does need to be put into perspective.

Chav corner is largely a nusiance. No, we don't have a serious problem.



I do agree though, that for the "enjoyment" of the away fans, moving the "chav corner" would be nice. But largely, the problems caused there are by kids chanting offensive songs at the away supporters to the point of been more intrested on that than the game, there not particarly known for voilence. And as I say, before we start backing Hull FC into the "bad" corner and Leeds into the "good" lets not forget the chants of "You're the scum of Rugby League" and the missle thrown at a Hull FC player.

Yet all evidence clearly points to exactly the opposite.



I take it your a new fan? I don't mean any disrespect by that, but Hull FC did use to have what I would call "serious" problems, especially in the 80's and early 90's and too a point up until the goal posts incident at our game.



But, apart from the odd incident we've seen nothing like that in recent years. We just have the same problems with drunk idiots as the rest of the clubs, and again thats proven by the incidents involving the Leeds fans last Saturday. Go into a town on a Saturday night anywhere in the country, its not just our problem.



Hull introduced all sorts of incitives including away supporter liason officers etc, and you have to say are largely very family friendly.

Well, from a personal point of view, I have only been supporting Leeds for 4 years (I'm still somewhat of a newbie) and I really dislike Hull FC matches, either away or at home. The first FC match I went to, my other half and I were witness to a lot of abuse from opposition fans (these weren't chavs either, they were at least 50, and both men and women) and it made for quite an unpleasant match.

You definately notice the amount of police at Hull FC matches at home. It's far more than any other team. My cousins and sister quite often come to the rugby with us, but I won't take them when it's Hull. I don't like the atmosphere.



We were at Hull for the challenge cup (my first visit to the KC) and from what I could gather there were issues from both sides. From what I could see more Hull fans got involved than Leeds fans though. Idiots like that need booting out of matches. I don't want them in rugby league. Any of those bottles could have hit young children and there's just no need. Both Leeds and Hull FC have a responsibility to stop this behaviour at BOTH home and away matches. The stewards at Hull were far from brilliant but I'm not convinced that the one's at Leeds would have been any better. It's given both clubs a bad press, being all over the papers. We don't need that sort of reputation. Let's hope the RFL steps up and sorts it out.