I know you said it in jest but thats what I like about the current set up at Halifax, they are doing things right, okay they still have some things to improve (like admin I believe, bills not been sent to diners for example) but they are getting there and are delivering on what they say.

Keep it up guys, it is what will sway those at Red Hall, people who they can trust not those who they know talk big but won't deliver, well I hope they will anyway.

To make the competition really European, get the French TV money and more matches on TV. The Europeanisation is a one way street, and it is the street to make of the SL one of the grand European competition while it was until recently a regional competition snubbed by Southerners in England.

I understand that some fans of good CC clubs are upset by this development, but let me give me a comparison.



Today a reporter from ITV commenting Le Tour reminded the viewers that initially it was a national race from France and now it is dominated by foreigners. For sure French would like to see French win the Tour, but if this race has become the race number one in the World it is by welcoming the best riders of the world. French are proud of this race, even if French riders do not win as much as in the early days...



The SL is different obviously and in particular in the fact that English clubs will always be in the topflight of SL (at least in the next 70 years). Having a great European competition will bring money, interest in the South of England and increased TV. This rise in profile will naturally dwindle down to the CC which will become the anti-chamber of SL (and hopefully P&R will be reinstated at some point).



I have no illusion of convincing you as I understand that you are likely to be frustrated by the difference between the performance of your team on the field and its chance to go in SL. However, I would like to state my conviction that the Europeanisation of the SL will be for the greatest good of RL in England. I expect crowds to increase over time and the interest and TV coverage of CC to increase.

I agree that expansion is good for the game. But this should be seperate to the natural progression of teams from the games heartlands. If a team from Europe are ready then they should be in, but not at the exspense of a current team.



I cant see any reason stopping all three of Widnes, Toulouse and Fax going into SL next. Us and Widnes replacing Salford and Wakefield/Celtic, and Toulouse going in as an expansion side.

Just a thought but...........

How many football Clubs come from London?

How many RL clubs come out of Sydney?



Cant understand why being in W Yorks should go against us, i would call that discrimination in any book!

Agree with most here - no.



If you can dominate the Championship from now until the end of next season, they could sneak in if a SL club goes down the pan or if Widnes do. I'm pretty confident we'll get in next time.

They have developed International class players and at least 1 world class player, when was the last time fax did?

The best thing we can ALL do, is make it almost impossible not to pick us, or at least consider expanding the comp to the same as the NRL.



We do that as fans by turning up, supprting in numbers, bringing friends along, buy shirts, cash fax, and making sure our club is beyond criticism.



Were half way there, with a stand, a trophy, increased support were in a very good position. We have a population greater than Widnes, Leigh and Castleford by quite a bit (yes i studied Geography)



Maybe we do need to forget that Hudds, Bfd and Leeds are bigger and start focusing our great rugby town, a founder member and a place of great potential.



I think all the negativity started with Gartland and was left in tatters after Nigel Woods stint. We all wax lyrical about Brook and Ackroyds days but we punched above our weight for a bit and paid the price financially. Good times all the same, and im very greatful to them.



Come on you Blues!

I think wakey been lucky to get a top class coach in kear.He gets the best out of players and i sure he be a success at any club.If he left wakey i am sure their results would change.Kear go back to a bigger club such as hull.

p.d thats poor





We could start a whole new thread on this one, every week we watch lads that started with us starring in Super League games, im not even going to bore you with names, i dont have time.. I hope that Tickles your fancy, and Grix you in a better frame of mind, Chester an idea, I have a friend with Hodgsons disease.... oh im bored already, you clearly know too little to waste my time

Plenty have come to Fax as teenagers, we do after all have the best Amatuer RL side in the country a stones throw from the Shay... but then again you know Sid'all'. so i wont go on anymore.

Catalans justify their own place in Superleague with their decent crowds and development of French players. As far as im aware prior to joining SL Catalans were getting smaller crowds than Toulouse are now. Within the space of twelve months their fan base grew tremendously. I'd wager a few bob that Toulouse would get higher crowds in SL than Fax AND that they would redevelop their own stadium in a lot less time than it has taken Fax to build one stand.



The aim of SL has always been to create a national if not European competition, football fans manage to travel all over the country every other week so why not rl fans?









How many football clubs don't come from London? A lot more than those that come from London thats for sure. Point is there might be loads in London but there are also far more who are not in London.



Thats not the case in RL, nearly all the clubs are in one area and theres next to none in other areas.

We shall see, you are forgetting one thing and we saw it was very apparent - Toulouse is a Rugby Union stronghold and there is not much interest in the RL team.

I think people are seeing things through rose tinted specs.

They see what they want to see and that is that all things expansionist are good and there will be big crowds and fans flocking to the game as a result it is a European league.

Bullsh*t it aint gonna happen, the game now is worse supportwise than it has been for a decade, so what has our expansion clubs done for us then???

Nowt except allow RL to say its played in more than just the M62 corridor.

The question is has it been worth it???

Not in my book no. You get games with no atmosphere and little interest as be honest nobody cares in these areas about RL, maybe apart from Catalans but for how long?

The point is you have to build on solid foundations and for RL that means, like it or not, in its heartlands and the way it treats the clubs lower than SL is weakening the game imo.

Siddal lads every one of 'em lad.

Not a good comeback actually, Leon will put you right.